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Old 09-07-2014, 10:51 AM   #29
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I sure am glad we got our 2012 in its' configuration, and price, when we did.
I agree 100%. However, there are sure to be some that find the new ones more appealing. Many of those will be ones who find our classic's styling old and out of date.

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Old 09-08-2014, 10:23 PM   #30
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At 69+, perhaps I am old and out of date as well. But our unit feels like a pair of old cozy slippers to us and we love it.

By the time of the Ballon Festival, I will have towed it over 8,000 miles since we took delivery in January and that is with us being out of the country for over 2.5 months already this year.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:54 PM   #31
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At 69+, perhaps I am old and out of date as well. But our unit feels like a pair of old cozy slippers to us and we love it.

By the time of the Ballon Festival, I will have towed it over 8,000 miles since we took delivery in January and that is with us being out of the country for over 2.5 months already this year.
Our ages are similar, and that is how I would describe our classic. It is comfortable and feels like home.

A few nights ago, we pulled into an campground and couple of spots away was another Classic 31. The first one except for ours that I've seen in person. It turns out it was also a 2010. It was owned by a very nice couple from Beaverton OR.

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PS I just noticed your callsign in your signature. I am W7TS.

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Old 09-08-2014, 11:21 PM   #32
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I bought my 84 31' Excella 15 years ago for 10k. I bought it because I could not afford a new one that was about 50k more, and there really was not that much difference between the 84 model and a new one at the time- same layout, windows, kitchen, suspension, brakes, etc.

The 2015 Classic with ducted air provides the first significant improvement that I have seen period. I won't buy one because my pockets are not deep enough, but now if they offered a reliable disc brake option that just might provide the needed incentive.

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Old 09-08-2014, 11:24 PM   #33
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I retrofitted Disc brakes and controller for around $2,500 this spring on our 2015 Classic. An ABS disc brake system is now a viable option as well.
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Old 09-10-2014, 09:08 PM   #34
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Conversion to SeeLevel model 714 tank level system completed today. Put the new display with the electrical battery and solar charging information above the dinette television. Photo later after interior furniture reinstalled from putting in new linoleum in the morning.
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:41 AM   #35
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Switz how much time and effort to make the SeeLevel conversion? Did you have good access to put the sensors on the tanks or did you need to open up the belly pan?

Also noticed after someone else's post that your solar photos are no longer available. Getting a 404 error from your dropbox account.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:47 PM   #36
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There are a lot of man hours involved with the See Level 714 system in preparation and installation.

All fluid tanks need to be empty and the propane tanks need to be full. So a lot of driving around is required to accomplish this preliminary tank status required for calibration. We were able to use the SPDT switch from the old control for propane tank selection for level information.

Since we created a command central on the wall above the television for the TriStar Solar display, Magnum inverter display, thermostat, ship's clock and now the SeeLevel display, we had to make the blank wood cover for the original level display near the stove as well as a wood base for the new unit to match prior work. See avatar.

The rivets had to be drilled to get the black and gray dump valves loose so the galvanized sheet metal tank cover could be dropped by removing bolts to gain access to the sides of those two tanks, attach the sensors and run the wiring to an access point in front of the street side wheel well housing. Then the reverse process to assemble the metal housing and valves, and rivet where necessary.

A two person crew is necessary for this installation process.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:21 AM   #37
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Conversion to SeeLevel model 714 tank level system completed today. Put the new display with the electrical battery and solar charging information above the dinette television. Photo later after interior furniture reinstalled from putting in new linoleum in the morning.
Congrats! Bruce Beard did that for his Airstream and loves it. I was going to have the factory do that this year when we went in for warranty repairs but they quoted $2500. Didn't seem worth it since we have a good sense for how the tanks fill but it would be nice to have reliable tank monitors.
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Old 09-12-2014, 08:41 AM   #38
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The rivets had to be drilled to get the black and gray dump valves loose so the galvanized sheet metal tank cover could be dropped by removing bolts to gain access to the sides of those two tanks, attach the sensors and run the wiring to an access point in front of the street side wheel well housing. Then the reverse process to assemble the metal housing and valves, and rivet where necessary.
Couldn't have you just cut an access hole in the bottom of the tank cover to access the sides of the tank? My trailer had an access plate just below the tank valves.
I installed a system on the side by side tank sytem (black and gray) and used the existing wiring. I think I had about two hours installing the SeeLevel system.
You will like the SeeLevel system - seemed very reliable.
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Old 09-14-2014, 07:43 AM   #39
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I sure am glad we got our 2012 in its' configuration, and price, when we did.

Me, too!
The only reason I picked a 2013 over a 2012 is no carpet.
The Classic as we know it is gone away.
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:06 AM   #40
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Ten years ago the difference in amenities in the high end Classic and low end Safari were obvious. More recently they began to "load" every model and options made even basic models fancy.

The new Classic widens the gap again, enough gadgets even my motorhome friends would like it. But it's in an Airstream package and I like that.
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Old 09-14-2014, 09:14 AM   #41
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I like the panoramic windows in the rear, but I don't like the loss of wardrobe space.
I like the wardrobe/bathroom layout, but I don't like the loss of the credenza.
I don't like the cherry wood, but I do like the recliners.
I love the counters.
I wonder if I will see one Tuesday in Jackson Center...
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You can imagine how hard it is for Airstream to decide on design, especially the rear bedroom. One of the main reasons I'm trading from my 30' FC to the new classic is the panoramic rear windows. I always felt a little claustrophobic with the wardrobes on either side. Plus I like to hang my arms off the bed. Yet from other people's comments they hate loosing the storage. You can't please everyone.
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