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Old 09-14-2016, 10:38 AM   #29
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A front carrier may be a great option. I don't mean to seem contrary, but these are very expensive bikes that I don't really want to advertise them to neighbors or expose to the elements, but that may be a bridge I'll have to cross one day. I imagine sitting at a cafe with $10k of bikes sitting on a rack waiting to be messed with. I'd have a tough time relaxing while eating lunch. That's pretty much why I want a big van, but man, the tow ratings are super low.

That being said... I'm open to ideas for bike storage where we don't have to remove the front wheel. It's too bad the Airstream frames don't have a 2" receiver on the back capable of supporting 100 lbs or so.

We could definitely do a corner bed. A 25ss could work for us, but I still fear it'll be too close to the weight limit of the transit (which is 6700 lbs, minus any weight I put in the van).
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:45 AM   #30
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Hi Explore More,
We own a 23D and love it - international edition - we moved up to this from a 19 ft. We have the Fiamma bike carrier on the back. No problem with the fridge - icecream is a must and it stays cold. We tow this with a Toyota 4runner with an 8 cylinder. They don't make 8 cylinders anymore on 4runners but we're hopeful by the time we have to replace our tow vehicle there will be something of similar size and power on the market.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:47 AM   #31
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Keep what you have and do this raised roof.

http://www.doityourselfrv.com/ford-van-raised-roof/

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Old 09-14-2016, 10:47 AM   #32
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Keep what you have and do this raised roof.http://www.doityourselfrv.com/ford-van-raised-roof/
Yeah, a raised roof is an option we're strongly considering.

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Hi Explore More,
We own a 23D and love it - international edition - we moved up to this from a 19 ft. We have the Fiamma bike carrier on the back. No problem with the fridge - icecream is a must and it stays cold. We tow this with a Toyota 4runner with an 8 cylinder. They don't make 8 cylinders anymore on 4runners but we're hopeful by the time we have to replace our tow vehicle there will be something of similar size and power on the market.

I used to have a v8 4runner before the van. I LOVED that truck. Thanks for the feedback on the fridge/freezer.

We need to go visit a 25ss in person, but they're tough to find. The nearest dealer is 6 hours away at the moment... so all I can do is web-shop and do web-analyze. We've been in a 25FB before we went full-time and we thought it'd work well.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:54 AM   #33
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I understand the expensive bikes part.
I used to stress and obsess that my Trek bikes - or even more expensive recumbent -would be damaged in a wreck when mounted to the front or back- or that my expensive bikes would get road grime on them-
I ended up with a Yakima roof rack, but that was on a Nissan Pathfinder.
There is no way to access a roof rack on an Econoline van.
When I got a pickup, I carried bikes in the bed.
Then I got a tonneau.
The bikes are older and scratched now so I am less OCD about it and still sometimes haul them in the truck bed with folding tonneau open or on a front receiver mounted bike rack.
I have thought about the Fiamma bike rack on the rear of the trailer, but am concerned about difficulty getting into the rear storage compartment.
My Tundra is too tall for a roof rack.
The Avrika rack that mounts over the propane tanks would add more tongue weight to my already maxed out payload Tundra.
For me, the front receiver bike rack is the best option. It also transfers another 60-70# to the truck's front axle.
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:32 PM   #34
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We're officially looking for a 25ss. I fear a 25FB will be too heavy for our tow rig.
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:56 PM   #35
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Wow, all that work, time, effort and preparation to find your diesel van and Airstream just to start over. I guess raising the roof on your van didn't work out. Is taking the wheels off your bikes that much of a hassle to store in the van to go through all this?

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Old 09-15-2016, 05:05 PM   #36
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Raising the roof is still an option... but it'll cost $2000-3000 and we think we might like the new van more. That's what we always tell ourselves anyway...

We are about to install a bunch of solar and batteries, so we figure now is the best time to decide if we want to keep the van and fc30, or if we want to change it up.
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:13 PM   #37
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But you're spot on... it really is a shame. We see ourselves putting the as in storage for summer 2017 and living out of just the van
We could do it with our current van, but it'd be a lot more comfortable in a high top transit.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:37 PM   #38
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Well, I for one enjoyed all your videos on all the work you've done on both the van and the AS. It's a shame you'll get rid of them. Best of luck on your new adventures.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:51 PM   #39
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Thanks, it's been a fun process and a great learning experience. Here's a video we shot of our FC 30. You can tell that we barely use most of the space in it. I think we could squeak by with a 25ss.

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Old 09-15-2016, 08:53 PM   #40
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Thanks, it's been a fun process and a great learning experience. Here's a video we shot of our FC 30. You can tell that we barely use most of the space in it. I think we could squeak by with a 25ss.

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Old 09-15-2016, 09:06 PM   #41
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Whoa you guys aren't messing around 😯, listed already. Good luck. While we may be surprised it should not surprise us to much. You guys do your research, make your decisions and get down to business.

And sometimes when we think we have it all figured out life throws in another variable that changes things. After all nothing in life is constant except change.

Go for it and have fun picking the next abode.
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Old 09-15-2016, 09:16 PM   #42
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Thanks. The good news is that we're riding our mountain bikes even more than we planned. (A GREAT problem to have).

Since we're loading and unloading them after every ride, a bigger van would make sense... sorta. Plus we'd like to ditch the Airstream in storage for the summer and just live out of the van. We could modify the van to make that work, but we're thinking it might be best to start with a bigger van. Who knows, it's all kinda crazy right now. I'm actually enjoying the peace of not shopping and not modifying things, but who knows... a 25 foot might be best for us.
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