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Old 12-26-2014, 03:57 PM   #29
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True Steve, but then there is 1000 to 1500 more pounds of truck to stop; I think they may be close.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:02 PM   #30
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Think I would have to disagree with this statement as for instance, a Ram 2500 of a given cab/bed size is about 2,000lbs heavier than a 1500 of the same size cab/bed, and has larger brakes, so the amount of traction to the road would be greater.
While it may have larger brakes, it is widely reported that the 3/4 ton and 1 ton pickups take longer to stop (lots of test reports available on line), so that extra brake capacity is not enough to make up for the combination of higher curb weight and lower traction due to tire selection.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:13 PM   #31
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I stand by my educated contention that stopping is going to almost be entirely dependent on friction between the braking wheels and the pavement. Weight on the rear axle of the TV can make a difference, but frankly with the way practically all vocal people on this forum advocate the use of WD, neither 1/2 ton trucks or 3/4 ton trucks are going to have enough weight on the back axle to make the best use of the brakes anyway.

There may be some caveats, but most any modern truck is physically capable of locking down any tire under any condition except that antilock prevents it.

I will grant that bigger brakes might be an advantage if a person abuses their brakes on a long steep down hill run.

The weight of the truck can be a factor. My 1/2 ton weighs 5,500 lbs. i know some one ton diesel trucks weigh in excess of 8,000 lbs.


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Old 12-26-2014, 04:15 PM   #32
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Yes, that is all the truck you'll ever need.
Good choice.
Get what you want the first time so you don't have to do it all over in a couple of years. It is easier and less expensive in the long run to do it that way.
Now buy them both and go campin'.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:16 PM   #33
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"The weight of the truck can be a factor. My 1/2 ton weighs 5,500 lbs. i know some one ton diesel trucks weigh in excess of 8,000 lbs."

I'll place my bet on the 1/2 ton here.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:18 PM   #34
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Well, don't want to argue about it, I've had both 1/2 and 3/4 to towing the same trailer, not the one I have now, but in the past, and I believe the 3/4 ton stops a given load better than the 1/2 ton. Just my experience/opinion.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:27 PM   #35
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When I was shopping and test drove a Tundra with the salesman riding shotgun, he had me stomp the gas to demonstrate power/acceleration. The salesman also had me stomp the brake to demonstrate how quickly it stops. Most of the Tundra's construction (minus springs/payload) is closer to a 3/4 ton truck. The brake rotors/calipers are huge/ginormous. Also, the trailer brake actuator should be set so that the trailer stops itself and the combination stops as if the trailer wasn't there. This theory works out in general, but panic stops do take more distance. Is this panic stop distance less in a 3/4 ton or 1 ton? I'm not sure. We have several 3/4 ton and 1 ton Duramax/Allison trucks at work. The trailers we tow are usually heavier than an Airstream, and the stopping distance seems about the same as my 1/2 ton and Airstream- so maybe the 3/4 has better stopping- I know the rotors/calipers/master cylinders are the same on the 3/4 ton and 1 ton Express/Savana vans-
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I am by no means arguing, I am just offering a different point of view and passionately defending my assertions.

We can disagree and still be cool with one another.




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Old 12-26-2014, 04:37 PM   #37
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Never want to argue- never want to have a "fallin' out" or "come apart" with my silver cocoon owning brethren- just want to share my personal real world observations and experiences- my $.02 FWIW-
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I ain't mad atcha fir drivin' a 3/4 ton. Your money (purchase, maintenance, fuel), your family and pets, your truck. Please don't be mad at me fir drivin' a 1/2 ton. My money (or lack thereof), my family and pets (and I feel perfectly safe/responsible hauling them in a 1/2 ton), my truck. Run whatcha brung. When I go to any campground, the seems to be equal numbers of 1/2, 3/4, and 1 tons, and equal numbers of Ford, GM, Ram, and Toyota trucks. Everyone has valid reasons for the choices they make, and my biggest valid reason (biggest motivating or un-motivating factor) is money, or lack thereof. I might re-think my decisions/choices if I could ever be convinced that there is anything wrong with the way I am doing it. As it is, I bought the truck I wanted and the trailer I wanted.
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That is me too.

My old half ton goes, it stops, it steers, it pulls, never gave me a single reason to think it isn't perfectly safe and up to the task I put in front of it. (Or behind it).

Now I will say that my combination all together weighs in at less than 12,000 pounds, loaded and ready to camp.

"Going light" is just a different approach to a common issue.



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My combination is about 14,400# with a trailer weighing about 8,600#- well within the advertised 10,400# towing capacity of the truck-
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Please don't get me wrong, I don't care what people use to tow their trailers with, although I think some of the things I've seen on here that totally disregard manufacturer's capacities and tow ratings are just plain silly. I also believe if those same people towed where, and as much as we do, they'd have a different tow vehicle, and I'm not talking about 1/2 ton trucks.

Yes, we have big differences, and if I could, I would drive a 1/2 ton, but with the weight of my trailer, it's just not gonna happen. The gross on the trailer is 11,500 with a weighed tongue weight of 1,150. A 1/2 ton is just more pleasant to drive, especially around town.

But about the stopping thing, think of this way, what will stop, drive, and handle better with the same 1250lb load, a 1/2 ton, or a 3/4 ton?

I know some people who tow 34's with a 1/2 ton, but they are earlier, lighter weight, non-slide out models, and they don't go as much or where we go.
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Yes, you are correct- my truck would not pull your trailer-
People who pull with less than a 1/2 ton truck are also convinced that they are totally safe and responsible- and they may be, but their tow vehicles won't pull your trailer or my trailer.
My combination is actually a very sweet match- I am totally ecstatically happy. The only thing I really feel would improve it marginally would be a ProPride, but I'm broke-
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