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Old 08-21-2016, 05:12 PM   #1
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Problem or normal... Water from white drain line when filling toilet

Ok, so ever since we bought our 2016 30fb we noticed water that comes out of a black line by the back driver side tire. I have found that this is normal and is just the AC condensate line.

However we also have a white drain line just under the bathroom (directly below the electric hook up) that will drain water quite aggressively. Possibly it does this at other times but I have only been able to make this happen when I am using the toilet water fill button. It doesn't leak during any other faucet running, shower running or toilet flushing. Only when you push the full toilet with water button.

Is this normal or is something wrong?
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Old 08-21-2016, 05:14 PM   #2
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Old 08-21-2016, 05:15 PM   #3
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Oh and one more detail, no the grey and black lines are neither near full and this happens even when grey line is connected and fully open.
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Possibly a winterize valve in the incorrect position. ???
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Check if there is a winterizing drain in that location. Another possibility could be if the bidet option was not ordered and the connection not blanked off.
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That option is a new one on me!
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Old 08-21-2016, 06:40 PM   #7
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Possibly a winterize valve in the incorrect position. ???
I think this is it. There was a recent thread on this but the OP never confirmed the prognosis. Thread here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f446...ue-153992.html

I will see if I can get the OP's attention with a quote.
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Greg, I am wondering if you could chime in here about what may be the same valve you recently dealt with?

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I am having an issue with the toilet that I cannot figure out. When you flush or add water to the bowl a significant amount of water comes out of an exterior drain line just left of grey water drain valve. I have attached a picture to try to show what happens. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 08-21-2016, 07:01 PM   #9
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Attachment 269700 this is photo of what I'm talking about.
This looks pretty similar to the photo in the original post in the thread I just linked started by ghaag. If you read that thread carefully, there are lots of leads referenced from other threads and the owner's manual, but no definitive answer from ghaag.

Have you contacted your dealer about this?

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Old 08-21-2016, 07:19 PM   #10
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In the parts manual for 2016 flying cloud, on the fresh piping water diagram, it shows that pipe going over to area of the outside shower/tank flush/fresh water inlet. Look on page IV-20. Maybe you can figure it out.

I'll guess it's the drain for a pressure relief valve.

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In the parts manual for 2016 flying cloud, on the fresh piping water diagram, it shows that pipe going over to area of the outside shower/tank flush/fresh water inlet. Look on page IV-20. Maybe you can figure it out.

I'll guess it's the drain for a pressure relief valve.

https://www.airstream.com/wp-content...Parts-Book.pdf
Thanks for this link, Alan, as the diagram at the top of that page does possibly show a drain for the toilet (and also for the bidet supply line?) which is described in the recent thread I linked IMO. [Although the drain is not labeled correctly.] The diagram might also be showing the shut-off for the toilet supply line, I grant you.

BTW -- Page IV-20 is on page 484/553 of the PDF you linked, which makes it a bit easier to find . . .

I wish you would read that other recent thread, Alan, because the diagram at the top of p. IV-20 does appear to show a drain at the toilet location to the left of the wheel well. The little symbols for the drain, and the shut-off handle, are there similar to the low point drains to the right, which are labeled correctly. True, it could also be the toilet supply line and shut-off. [edit -- sorry to be redundant -- running out of edit time]


Streaminfree, hopefully your can find this drain's shut-off valve near your toilet, based on the clues and leads in that other thread.

It would be great to have both mysteries solved! And given all the different floor plans and toilet locations, an extra low-point drain could be almost anywhere IMO.

Thanks,

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Ok, finally getting back to the post, so it sounds like the 1st answer is no, this is not normal.

2nd... The issue is a low point drain that is partially or completely open.

3rd the valve is a yellow valve likely under the dinette seat. I'll check it out later when everyone is awake as it is currently 4:30 am and I'm only awake because my AC was defrosting and waking up my wife. So I had to figure out how to solve that one.

Gonna be an airstream master before long! I'll be sure to come back and post the conclusion, possibly with some pictures.

Headed to some other posts to see if I can fix the AC defrosting issue.
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Check if there is a winterizing drain in that location. Another possibility could be if the bidet option was not ordered and the connection not blanked off.
Good call. Thanks for the bidet heads up. Do you have any further ideas about the location of the valve? See A W Warn's linked parts document and comments from last night.

Thanks again,

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Run the ac on a higher fan setting to keep it from freezing.
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