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Old 10-26-2013, 10:10 PM   #29
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If the argument that one cannot legitimately improve the performance of a stock vehicle through aftermarket modifications would be in any way valid, 80% of all motor-sport events would have to close down tomorrow, including all Touring Car Championships and even, to a degree, NASCAR..
Motor sports events take place in closed circuits, not in public roads.
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:39 PM   #30
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Look at Hensley or ProPride hitches which move the effective pivot point forward. The innovative linkage system keeps the trailer from moving out of straight alignment with truck, while the weight distribution bars equalize the weight to the axles.

I would think Land Rover does not want you to use a w.d. hitch because the hitch attachment points are too weak to support the lifting action of the w.d. bars. Some have reinforced this area by welding a support brace from the receiver forward to the frame to resist the vertical twisting. Can-Am Airstream in Canada does his sort of thing regularly, give them a call for a recommendation based on experience.
At the risk of inflaming some members of the forum, Doug is right about Can Am. I came across this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...ue-101575.html

From what's written, one would suppose that Andrew T has some experience with Land Rovers. If the OP is after some advice then he could do worse than put in a call to London, Ontario.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:02 PM   #31
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We have had 3 Land Rovers thru the last 15 years. 1999 Range Rover we towed four down behind a Class A, 2003 Disco we towed our '67 Globe Trotter, and dragged behind the bus, and a 2001 Disco we towed. I love the Disco, and for towing the GT we did in fact use an Equalizer brand equalizing hitch. Rover performed well towing the 4000 lbs loaded GT all over Colorado getting 11-14 mpg. (Our restoration of the GT added weight over what factory weight was )
If you have been towing a travel trailer already with your '03 Disco and aren't exceeding tow rating with an Airstream, I would think you'll have same/similar experience you have with your Yukon trailer
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:47 AM   #32
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Motor sports events take place in closed circuits, not in public roads.
That's correct, but that does not change the principle that aftermarket modifications can indeed change and improve the capabilities of stock vehicles and do so safely. Racing drivers do not wish to die either and safety standards in racing are rigorous.
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Forget motor sports, high school boys modify their cars beyond spec all the time. None of them are driving on closed courses and still manage to get insurance!
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Speaking of closed courses.....sure don't take much to get you all off-course.

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Old 10-27-2013, 01:02 PM   #35
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Speaking of closed courses.....sure don't take much to get you all off-course.

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I don't know about you, but I do appreciate these slightly off-topic meanderings.

I use a variety of forums for learning - specifically those dealing with web design, programming and videography - and I often learn the most from threads that are somewhat contentious, where opinions clash. There's nothing wrong with spirited discussion in my book, for as long as it is done respectfully.

It's interesting to me to be informed of both sides of the coin, that way I can best decide on what works for me.

I also think that it is possible to disagree on a subject without personal animosity.
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I also think that it is possible to disagree on a subject without personal animosity. For example, you could not pay me enough to ride in a Suburban - I consider it a fundamentally flawed vehicle - yet I'd still love to have a beer, should we meet one day.
Andy,

That will make us even....'cuz an Odyssey is just a myth 'ta me.
Not fundamentally, completely.
Have a cool one.

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Old 11-02-2013, 01:42 PM   #37
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Maiden voyage of my new ('09) 23ft FB Flying Cloud

I took ownership of the 2009 Flying Cloud Tuesday, 29 Oct and now I have 'flown' it down to the state campground in Gulf Shores, Alabama. It was a mostly night-time trip but the roads I chose were mostly limited access.
When I first hooked up to the camper at home, I wanted to see how well the suspension of the LR held up. I found out I could make short trips but I saw the rising of the front end and the squatting of the rear of the TV. When I switched to the Valley LD hitch which came with the camper I was able to level out both pretty well. This camper being higher, wider, and longer, and a lot more expensive, I was a little anxious about the first trip. As the miles behind me became greater than the miles in front I began to feel a little more comfortable. Pulling in around 11:00 PM the set-up was a breeze, however I did not disconnect from the TV until this morning; stabilizers, water line, sewer line, and electric and we were hitting the sack. (plus shower)
Buying from an individual is different than dealer. I found out the previous owner had not removed and cleaned behind the smoked bug screens from the curved windows on front corners. Other than a general cleaning there does not seem to anything I need to do other than use it!
The previous owner had replaced the factory 19 inch TV and installed a 32 inch Samsung which will swivel so it can be viewed wherever you are in the camper. Because of the weight of this 32 inch TV he built a little shelf on the wall below the TV. The large TV has to be rotated and placed on the shelf and strapped down to travel. The main downside is it interferes with walking around the bed! The 32" TV will probably be replaced with one more the size of the original. Have some of you down what he did? We were looking forward to be able to get out of bed and go to the bathroom in the middle of the night with climbing over the person sleeping on the outside. There were times tho this act in the old camper became very interesting!! If some of you feel you have met both desires, a nice size screen and yet the ability to walk around the foot of the bed, please let me know.
The one question I have. . . How can you tell when you have the sway bar adjusted properly? Is this mainly trial and error?
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"How can you tell when you have the sway bar adjusted properly? Is this mainly trial and error?"

A trip to the scales, or a tape measure.


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I check our weight distribution adjustment every time I hook up with our Propride hitch.

First I measure the truck front and year wheel wells of the truck and note the height of each. Then I hitch up to the trailer and measure again, adjusting the w.d. bars so the drop is equal on froth and rear wheel wells. Then I check to ensure the trailer is still very near level front to rear.

It is often hard to do this at many campgrounds where the ground is not level, so we hitch up as close as possible, then measure when we get to level ground.
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Now that I have returned from my maiden voyage with my 23FB Flying Cloud, I can tell you this is the way to go! My trip length was 277 mi each way. My fuel economy going down was 11 MPG even with tire pressure a little low 32 on all four. Before I hooked up to come back I brought the tire pressure up to the recommended which averaged about 10 more pounds per tire. I was driving into a strong wind for part of my return trip and still got 10 MPG.
People on this forum and also in the campground know very little about this sweet little truck. I even had one man at the campground ask me if it was a four cylinder! This truck can and has forded rivers so deep the headlights were almost completely under water and at when the urgency is present it can cruise at 80-90 with a solid feel of the road. The very stiff coil suspension and the 18 inch Yokohoma tires are reason if I needed to I could use this TV without a load distributing hitch. I admit there is somewhat of a squat without the LD stuff. The Airstream Flying Cloud got a lot of attention at the Gulf Shores campground. For a short time there were four Airstreams parked there. I enjoy this forum and the feedback and the sharing it provides.
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Glad it worked for you, but this thread is now useless without pictures!
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Here is a picture showing the Land Rover Discovery II hooked up to the 23ft Flying Cloud in November on our maiden voyage to Gulf Shores RV park. The 18 inch wheels (Yokahoma) really make a difference. Nice trip.
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