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11-05-2014, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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I would not take anyones word here or from an Airatream dealer that this is normal. Sounds like a trip to Jackson Center is in order. They are about 3 months behind on service appointments.
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11-05-2014, 06:30 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 29' Ambassador
grants pass
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 262
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If you want a flat floor in an aluminum travel trailer you would need to buy an Avion.
But the newest avion you can get is a 1990 since they are out of business.
Plus they do not look as cool as an Airstream..
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11-05-2014, 06:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
I would not take anyones word here or from an Airatream dealer that this is normal. Sounds like a trip to Jackson Center is in order. They are about 3 months behind on service appointments.
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Jackson Center said my floor humps are normal. I had already presumed the humps were seams in the plywood because they are 4' apart.
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11-06-2014, 07:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by retire62
"Yes, you will find this rise on most of our front bedroom trailers (except that mine is not an FB). This rise happens in the area that we bolt in support bars to help stabilize the walking area. Also in the area we put in the cross car wiring chase so we can run wires from one side of the trailer to the other. These boxes actually sit on top of the chassis rail and create this rise. There is not a chassis issue with this. If you have any questions let me know."
So there I have it. My humps, my humps, I HATE my humps!
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At best this is nothing more than an excuse for cheap design and poor quality.
If they are in fact placing a wire chase on top of the frame it would be a simple thing to under cut the sub floor at that point and place a strip of sheet metal on top of the floor to reinforce the cut and maintain a flat floor.
This is nothing more than a demonstration in the lack of quality Airstream is willing to supply.
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11-06-2014, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
At best this is nothing more than an excuse for cheap design and poor quality.
If they are in fact placing a wire chase on top of the frame it would be a simple thing to under cut the sub floor at that point and place a strip of sheet metal on top of the floor to reinforce the cut and maintain a flat floor.
This is nothing more than a demonstration in the lack of quality Airstream is willing to supply.
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Ditto
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11-07-2014, 07:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Double ditto. My hump in at the foot of the bed, left to right. Just because Airstream says it is normal does not make it so. Sounds more like poor design to me.
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11-07-2014, 07:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' International CCD FB
Northridge
, California
Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
My humps
My humps
My lovely trailer humps
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LilNomad
My trailer is a "humpless" 2007.
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11-07-2014, 07:41 AM
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New Member
2014 28' Flying Cloud
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2014
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The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) defines a "trip hazard" as any change in vertical height greater than 1/4". The rise of the floor in my AS as measured by the dealer and reported to JC is 3/8".
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11-07-2014, 07:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
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I have some buckles in my vinyl, one next to the kitchen cabinets below the drawers and one under the rear dinette. Both are adjacent where the vinyl goes under the cabinetry. Not noticeable. I haven't noticed any seam humps. 2008 Classic 25fb.
Kelvin
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11-07-2014, 08:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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You know - seam humps of 3/8 inch seem improbable to me. The last time I was at the factory, they were using plywood with tongue and groove edges. So how the heck do you get more than 1/16 inch difference at a seam in the plywood with T&G plywood?
Or have they stopped using T&G?
Paula
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11-07-2014, 08:08 AM
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Mantua
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Get the ADA involved? Let's see, widen the door for wheelchair access, change the bathrooms so the showers and toilet has grab rails, lower the appliances for better access, etc, don't go there!
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11-07-2014, 08:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
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So far ADA does not have jurisdiction on trailers. However Lawyers might sight the standard when presenting a case. A customer that wants action might also make Airstream aware of the standard.
If we all ready have a couple of owners with this problem you might consider acting together when contacting Airstream. Individually you will be blown off because of the extensive cost required to fix these humps. GM blow the public off for 10 years till the death rate became public. Now I doubt deaths will occur here but are you satisfied with what you paid for?
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11-07-2014, 09:20 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
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I guess it's like the tar seams in a concrete roadway vs. a speed bump. One is a thump, thump and one is a BUMP. It's all relative to our perception.
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11-07-2014, 05:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by retire62
The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) defines a "trip hazard" as any change in vertical height greater than 1/4". The rise of the floor in my AS as measured by the dealer and reported to JC is 3/8".
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That is pretty big. Mine are so small they are just barely noticeable. The light has to hit them a certain way, or I have to rub my sock foot across them to tell where they are. One is about from the kitchen sink cabinet across to the dinette bench. The other is about from the cooktop cabinet to the other dinette bench. No big deal really. Seams in the plywood-
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11-08-2014, 07:50 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 28' Flying Cloud
2021 16' Basecamp
Millsboro
, Delaware
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by retire62
Just wondering if any other owners out there have experienced this situation with their units? There is a definite "hump" in the floor opposite the fridge. The AS is brand new and during our maiden voyage we took it to a dealer who said they had no way of fixing it and suggested we take it back to the factory. Upon our return home the local dealer had "never seen anything like it" and was quite surprised when Airstream told them that this is "normal" for this model. I'm trying very hard to not be concerned about this.
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We took possession of a 2014 '28 foot AS in May. We used it for 27 nights. We have never noticed any humps or bumps.
There was a little spring feeling in the bedroom street side, but when we were in Jackson Center we had that fixed. The technician tightened up the quarter round holding the vinyl down.
I would highly recommend talking any new airstream to Jackson center in it's first twenty-four months. They will fix anything large or small. What impressed me is these units are handmade, with that said there are bound to be minor imperfections that need correcting.
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11-08-2014, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
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Ditto-
I second that emotion-
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11-13-2014, 04:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
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There was a newbie a year or two ago who filled her water tank by pushing the hose down the opening - and overfilled it so severely that it broke and buckled the floor.
Hate to say it but a 3/8" bump just isn't normal. Some dealerships just don't want to tie up a bay for a 3-5 day job. I say - time for a trip to the mothership.
Paula
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05-16-2016, 06:13 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Smyrna
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 11
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We also have humps
We've got a 2015 FC 30' bunk and also have "humps" going from side-to-side. However they are not 4' apart as other commenters said. Ours are a few inches apart and there are 4-5 of them. We've also got 2 leaks underneath the humps, one of which is dripping reddish water. Our vinyl got a small puncture where the humps are and reddish-brown liquid is VERY slowly seeping out. We are taking it to Bay Area Airstream in 3 days. Hoping it's not anything major.
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