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10-25-2014, 08:15 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Brownsburg
, Indiana
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Honda EU 1000i
Have a 2010 Flying Cloud (new AS owner) 25FB. Has anyone used this product for alternate "short term" power? Also, can I simply connect to the 120 power input on the front of my AS?
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10-25-2014, 08:42 AM
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Curtis Wright
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High quality, very quiet, low power. Yes you can plug into your shore line. But, you can only use the amount of power available from the small generator.
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10-25-2014, 08:47 AM
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2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
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I'm sure it is just as high quality as the other Honda's, but unless your really want the lightest weight possible I think you'd find the 2000 a better compromise from a power standpoint - you can run everything except your AC.
When I bought, I briefly considered the 1000 but wound up buying the 2000 and I think if I had not, I would later have regretted it. You may have very valid reason for preferring the 1000 however!
With any of them you can just plug your shore line into the gennie.
Brian.
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10-25-2014, 08:58 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Brownsburg
, Indiana
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Brian, thanks for the quick and complete response.
Jim
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10-25-2014, 10:56 AM
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1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
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I have had the Honda 1000 for a number of years. I like the very light weight (29#) and small size. The only caution when powering an Airstream is that you cannot use the electric part of the water heater, and if you have a recent AS, the Dometic refrigerator on Auto will try to run on the generator power, further reducing the amount available for other uses, such as battery charging. So, you may need to change your refrigerator to propane manually, or shut off the circuit breaker which supplies it.
Also, some converter/chargers have a very low power factor (a technical issue with some electronics) and the Honda 1000 will shut down, even though you think you are running below it's 1000 watt capacity. When I changed the converter/charger in my 2014 FC 20' I put a PD 4645 (45 amp) in rather than the 4655 (55 amp) which is the usual one most folks use, as I have learned from experience that the 55 amp model can overload the smallest Honda.
Again, I like the little Honda very much, but you do have to be quite careful of it's limits. If you would prefer less concern, the Honda 2000 might be a better choice.
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10-25-2014, 11:01 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Brownsburg
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Some very good points...thanks. Most likely I will be going with the 2000.
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10-25-2014, 02:35 PM
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2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
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I've used my 1000 to charge the batteries via the converter on my '14 25' FC with no problem. I like it because it fits in the rear storage compartment of the FC.
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10-25-2014, 02:39 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Brownsburg
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Good point on the storage. Thanks
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10-25-2014, 04:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
I've used my 1000 to charge the batteries via the converter on my '14 25' FC with no problem. I like it because it fits in the rear storage compartment of the FC.
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All good points; I have a Honeywell 2000W, I got a few years ago, and have used same as 1000 Honda- light loads....charging batteries, light electrical. With the new 25' FC, for that purpose, the portable solar panel for us, does nice job, plus no issues with carrying gas. I think some of the other posts nail it; you really want to look at where your camping to determine what works best. We use the solar panels for charging 80% of the time and that works fine; now in Borrego Springs this weekend, 95+ out...we would need air conditioning support, so 3400 likely needed if not plugged in to shore power...we camp in MT and northern states in summer but when it gets colder, you want to consider driving heater, so again, a smaller generator may be the ticket...but a 3400 Honda or Yamaha, with propane option, could tie right into your AS propane, if you have the newer model with quick disconnect up front...no gas needed....that's next toy for us.
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10-25-2014, 04:11 PM
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2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
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Another advantage of the EU 2000i watt Honda is that IF, in the future, you decide you need the capacity of running your air conditioner on generator power, you can purchase the Companion EU 2000i Honda and easily parallel it with your original regular 2000w model. (Note: You can parallel two regular model EU 2000i Hondas, but you will need a parallel box device which is more costly and more cumbersome than using the simple parallel cables with the Companion model.)
In fact, we bought the Companion model first, along with the parallel cables ... just in case we found ourselves somewhere where we needed AC ... there will always be another EU 2000i Honda at a rally you can parallel with if necessary. We bought the regular model about 18 months later so we have both now. You can't go wrong with them.
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10-31-2014, 11:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
Alpharetta
, Georgia
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The conversation usually starts like this:
"What is the cheapest Honda generator?"
"What is the smallest Honda generator?"
So, of course, I tell them about the EU1000i, but recommend the EU2000i a number of reasons:
• Double the power for not much more money
• You can run much, much more loads vs. the EU1000i
• The EU2000i has a cast-iron cylinder sleeve and 36-month warranty
• The EU1000i is 100% aluminum and has a 24-month warranty
• Once you start using it, you'll want to plug in more stuff, and wish you'd gotten the larger model.
I only suggest the EU1000i if weight is a critical issue (small aircraft operation, hikers, etc.) Otherwise, if 29 lbs is okay, then 49 lbs should be just fine, so get the larger, more versatile EU2000i.
Can't tell you how many times I've seen somebody buy an EU1000i and then see them months later wishing they'd bought an EU2000i.
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10-31-2014, 12:52 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Brownsburg
, Indiana
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Thanks for the input. All very useful and has helped me make the decision. 2000 it is!!
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