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11-15-2013, 08:08 AM
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#101
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Additionally Jeff, we were close to your location in September when the Colorado floods hit. ON September 12th, we were camped in St. Vrain State Park in Longmont, Colorado. About 7:30 in the morning, a Park Ranger knocked on Lucy's door and told us that we needed to evacuate as they expected the park to be flooded later in the day.
We packed Lucy up in the pouring down rain and were out of the park in about an hour. We headed north on I-25 up to Cheyenne, Wyoming just prior to I-25 being closed.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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11-15-2013, 07:08 PM
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#102
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3 Rivet Member
2018 Atlas
Orange Beach
, Alabama
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 152
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"Thanks for chiming in. It is reassuring to hear from another member with a 23FB that the floor plan works well."
Well, how about this? We've owned TWO FC23 FB's since 2009. We traded our 09 for a 2011 Bambi 16 when we relocated and didn't anticipate having the room to park the 23FB. Last summer as we returned from 10 days at the Grand Canyon we spent lots of time talking about how much we liked the 23FB, so we detoured over to the nearest Airstream dealer and traded the Bambi for a 2013 FC 23FB. We just returned from a trip to Durango, and yep, we were right, the 23FB is the right trailer for us.
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11-15-2013, 07:36 PM
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#103
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdthor
"Thanks for chiming in. It is reassuring to hear from another member with a 23FB that the floor plan works well."
Well, how about this? We've owned TWO FC23 FB's since 2009. We traded our 09 for a 2011 Bambi 16 when we relocated and didn't anticipate having the room to park the 23FB. Last summer as we returned from 10 days at the Grand Canyon we spent lots of time talking about how much we liked the 23FB, so we detoured over to the nearest Airstream dealer and traded the Bambi for a 2013 FC 23FB. We just returned from a trip to Durango, and yep, we were right, the 23FB is the right trailer for us.
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Glad to hear that you like the 23FB so well. The 2012 23FB that we are getting was originally purchased by a man who had traded in his 19' Bambi for it in March of this year. After two trips with the 23FB, he decided that he liked his 19' better. He had just traded the 23FB on a 2014 19' Bambi when we happened along.
We will be picking up our new 23FB next Wednesday.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-02-2013, 06:53 AM
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#104
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaken49
Brian,
Please provide details about the "state of the art rear view camera system" in your New Lucy.
Thanks!
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I'm sorry for the delayed response. We picked up the 23FB on November 20th. We didn't get to try out the rear view camera system right away. The camera system that came with the trailer is a Voyager Digital Wireless rear view camera (Model WVOS511). It seems to work very well. The reception up in the tow vehicle is flawless, but the picture does become somewhat distorted in the rain.
It's a rather pricey unit that retails for $679 on Amazon. This one came with the trailer.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-02-2013, 08:37 AM
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#105
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Glad to hear a backup camera can work well. The OEM one with our 2013 FJ Cruiser might be able to tell us a guerilla was behind us, but otherwise I see a bunch of lines that resemble a tennis court, some washed out areas and not much else. The lines are supposed to show something like the track of the vehicle as we backup, but the info supplied says not to trust the lines or much of anything else. Looking around is still the best thing to do.
I think you have to be really careful about which brand you buy and Toyota apparently wasn't.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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12-02-2013, 09:33 AM
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#106
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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We also have a camera that came in the Silverado. It aids in hooking-up, but only if the truck camper is not casting a shadow on the hitch bar.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-03-2013, 05:27 AM
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#107
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Soooo,, what do you think about it? Able to tolerate the tight feel compared to the taller, wider, longer 25'?
Inquiring minds want to know..
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12-03-2013, 07:16 PM
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#108
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GettinAway
Soooo,, what do you think about it? Able to tolerate the tight feel compared to the taller, wider, longer 25'?
Inquiring minds want to know..
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So far, so good. We've got about 10 nights in New Lucy. We're still getting used to the different layout. After almost 1,400 nights in Old Lucy, we were kind of set in our ways. We think that we're making progress, though. We really don't feel cramped. The bed is the same and sleeps great. All else is secondary.
We will report further as we get more experience with the new, trimmer Lucy.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-03-2013, 07:50 PM
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#109
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Holly Lake Ranch
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,794
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
Glad to hear a backup camera can work well. The OEM one with our 2013 FJ Cruiser might be able to tell us a guerilla was behind us, but otherwise I see a bunch of lines that resemble a tennis court, some washed out areas and not much else. The lines are supposed to show something like the track of the vehicle as we backup, but the info supplied says not to trust the lines or much of anything else. Looking around is still the best thing to do.
I think you have to be really careful about which brand you buy and Toyota apparently wasn't.
Gene
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Gene
Didn't realize that guerillas were operating in the Colorado mountains. Are you sure they aren't just some lost Texans who failed to head South after the first freeze?
Dana
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2006 Safari 23
2011 Tundra Double Cab
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12-05-2013, 09:20 PM
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#110
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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We continue to adapt to the 23FB. New Lucy's shower is is very nice. It is a little bit larger that the one in the 25FB. I wish that it had the little exhaust fan like in the 25FB, but the Fantastic Fan right outside the bathroom door draws out most of the stream.
The new style windows are much nicer that the old type windows. They work much better and they look great.
There is a spare water filter cartridge in the cabinet. I can't yet figure out where it goes.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-05-2013, 09:58 PM
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#111
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
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Our Moen water filter cartridge
Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
We continue to adapt to the 23FB...
There is a spare water filter cartridge in the cabinet. I can't yet figure out where it goes.
Brian
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Our Moen water filter cartridge connects to the the fresh water connection under the sink for the filtered water dispenser on our lobster sink.
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12-11-2013, 09:34 AM
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#112
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Thanks for the under sink photo. The under sink are on new Lucy is laid out differently.
Here are a couple of photos. The new filter cartridge is what we found left under the sink. We still can't figure out where it goes.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
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2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-11-2013, 02:09 PM
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#113
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Holly Lake Ranch
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Brian
judging from the looks of that water filter, it looks like the same kind of filter that I use on the exterior water line. is one end threaded male and the other female?
I hate to bring it up to someone with your trailering experience but if I was going to venture a guess, that's what I would say it looks like.
EDIT: However after visiting the Pentek website it appears that it is supposed to fit directly into your water line. Perhaps someone started to make a change and didn't get to it... was your 23 New or New to you?
Dana
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2006 Safari 23
2011 Tundra Double Cab
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12-11-2013, 03:11 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2013 23' FB Flying Cloud
Kennewick
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 17
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The attached picture shows under the kitchen sink of our 2013 23FB FC. Our waterfilter replaces the jumper that you see in the picture. The jumper is installed when AS is winterized.
Doug
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12-12-2013, 11:42 AM
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#115
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goal15
Brian
judging from the looks of that water filter, it looks like the same kind of filter that I use on the exterior water line. is one end threaded male and the other female?
I hate to bring it up to someone with your trailering experience but if I was going to venture a guess, that's what I would say it looks like.
EDIT: However after visiting the Pentek website it appears that it is supposed to fit directly into your water line. Perhaps someone started to make a change and didn't get to it... was your 23 New or New to you?
Dana
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The filter that I found in the cabinet is threaded female on both ends. This Airstream is new to me, but the trailer seems unmolested. The reason that I am thinking that this filter belongs somewhere in the trailer is that it was left there in the under-sink cabinet. Also I have the original window sticker for this trailer and it shows "Faucet w/Filtration & Separate Sprayer" on the factory invoice.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-12-2013, 12:34 PM
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#116
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Holly Lake Ranch
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,794
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Brian
looks like DougNJanet's theory above is the most plausible explanation...
Dana
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2006 Safari 23
2011 Tundra Double Cab
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12-12-2013, 02:49 PM
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#117
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4 Rivet Member
2001 16' Bambi
2013 23' International
Piedmont Region
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 408
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DougNJanet have it right. Same setup in my 23. Filter comes out for winterization. The piece that goes in it's place came with the trailer.
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12-18-2013, 07:14 PM
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#118
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
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Santa Rosa Beach
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I have finally decided to report our bad fortune with New Lucy. We picked-up the 23FB on November 20th. We spent that night and most of the next day getting New Lucy set-up. We transferred the Hensley ourselves.
We took to the road late in the afternoon of the 21st. It was only about three hours to get home. We hadn't gotten more that fifteen miles on I-10 when a tire tread from a truck came off right in front of us. There was no time to avoid it. It went right up under the Airstream ripping off the sewer pipe tube and one of the fresh water drain valves. All considered, the damage was minimal, so we considered ourselves fortunate.
We brought Lucy home. With the broken valve, the city water connection flowed right out onto the ground. With the pump on, the same thing happened. We took Lucy over to Jacksonville for Thanksgiving. I put a small lag bolt into the broken water tube. This slowed down the flow, but did not stop it. We were able to use the toilet, but showers were out of the question. We were camped in SuEllyn's Dad's yard in Jacksonville, so we had access to showers in the house.
The following week we brought Lucy down to Sanders Airstream in Alachua. They replaced the fresh water valve and the sewer hose tube in pretty short order. We went back to Jacksonville for several more days, and then brought Lucy back home.
We continued getting Lucy set-up. We had been using Lucy's air conditioner and heat pump, and they were both working fine.
Yesterday, the heat pump quit working. The unit was trying to start the compressor, but it was not coming on. I tried everything that I knew with no results. SuEllyn called the Airstream Service Center in Jackson Center. They were very helpful, and told us that it was either the starter capacitor or a bad compressor.
We got a local RV repair company to come out and take a look at Lucy. The RV tech came today. He started off by replacing the capacitor while I kept my fingers crossed. No such luck, the compressor had seized.
We have a new unit coming in tomorrow and it will be installed on Friday.
So far, New Lucy has been snake bit.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
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2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-18-2013, 07:23 PM
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#119
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Rivet Master
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 623
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Hey Brian, cheer up. Thankfully nobody got hurt on the I-10 incident. Equipment does fail, that's just part of living an active life out of the recliner. Fix the A/C and roll on!
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Joe & Joan Donnaway
Durango, CO
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12-18-2013, 07:30 PM
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#120
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Glad you got a nice rig, but it was sure a bummer incident on the road. I can relate.
My former wife was driving with her sister in our 1971 VW Vanagon on the Interstate in Kentucky and in the blink of an eye, a semi trailer lost a wheel and it crossed the median and hit the van just behind the door post. A split second sooner and it would have come through the driver's window probably killing her and then her sister in a subsequent accident. The truck never stopped.
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