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Old 10-22-2013, 01:56 PM   #71
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Beside getting a 50 Watt solar system I also have the dealer install a switch on the fan for the refrigerator condenser without any additional cost. The refrigerator we have work quite well, have not tried it in above 100 deg. temperature yet.
Good luck on your New Lucy. Our RVing style is very semilar to your's never stayed in one place for more than couple of days except when visiting the relatives.
What we loved most about the 23FB is walk around bed, shorter, narrower, bathroom arrangement and the capacity of fresh water tank is same as larger one. So far we have driven over 10K miles looking forward to go to Alaska next summer.
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Thanks, everybody, for all the 5 cubic foot refrigerator information. I just ordered one of the AcuRite Refrigerator Thermometers. I now feel better about the smaller refrigerator.

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Old 10-24-2013, 09:18 PM   #73
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I have a new question about the 23FB. In the real camping world, what does your 23FB weigh, ready to go camping?

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I checked the Cooper web site; The Trendsetter tire is classified as a "entry level "economy passenger tire. The weight is 2028#. What about the sidewall stability? Is this a heavy enough tire for trailer application?
I have a FC FB 25 and have been looking at Cooper tires, but??
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I checked the Cooper web site; The Trendsetter tire is classified as a "entry level "economy passenger tire. The weight is 2028#. What about the sidewall stability? Is this a heavy enough tire for trailer application?
I have a FC FB 25 and have been looking at Cooper tires, but??
Danny and Brian keep us posted.
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We just got back from an 11,000 mile adventure across the United States and Canada to Alaska and back with our little 22 ft 2 axle Safari . I did not splurge for Michelins this time but put a set of Cooper 235/75R15s P rated tires on it .These were 70 bucks a pop at Discount tire, and I mounted and balanced them myself.
On this trip we encountered just about every road condition and surface that there is on this planet. As well as making a great many tight U-turns on paved and gravel surfaces "side drag on the trailer tires" and again scooting across Texas in the August heat at 70 plus MPH, these low cost Non ST tires performed just as well as the Michelins. No flats , no problems whatsoever .
I had previously "back when the speed limit was 55 " run a set of the cheapest 235/75R15 inch general tires that Sams club sold then for about 35 bucks a piece on my 66 24 ft Land Yacht with exactly the same results. No problem whatsoever . We traveled mostly in the heat of the hot Texas summers .
I use the P rated tires mainly because the load rating is more than sufficient and the fact they have a lot more flexibility to absorb variations in the road surface ,small objects pot holes etc, without transmitting the movement to the axle and trailer while running at a much lower air pressure.

The amount of travel in a trailers suspension is so very tiny when compared to the suspension travel of trucks and cars , I like to give it a bit more cushion that these P rated tires offer . And have never encountered any problem at all in crosswinds , sharp turns , etc. due to the much softer sidewalls.
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I have a new question about the 23FB. In the real camping world, what does your 23FB weigh, ready to go camping?

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Brian,
Normal camping load for our 23FB, with gear, provisions, full propane, full potable water and empty waste tanks is 5673 lbs. 2592 on front axle, 2296 on rear and 785 on tongue (unhitched).
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Normal camping load for our 23FB, with gear, provisions, full propane, full potable water and empty waste tanks is 5673 lbs. 2592 on front axle, 2296 on rear and 785 on tongue (unhitched).
Joe,

Thank you for this information. We'll probably be packing about the same for the road. I'll be using the Hensley Arrow form Old Lucy. That will add another hundred or so pounds. Even with that, I'll be running about 1,600# less than we did with the 25FB.

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We have spent the last several days emptying and depersonalizing Old Lucy. We are amazed at how much stuff we had been carrying around for the last eight years. Many of the tools and accessories that were in Old Lucy had never been used. There were even some things that we swear that we had never seen before. Someone must have snuck them in and hid them.

We are now in the fourth day of this unloading process, and we are not done yet. We have decided that only about half of this stuff is going to make to New Lucy.

The process continues.

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Brian, I wondered why your reported weights were so much higher than that of my 28 footer!
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Brian, I wondered why your reported weights were so much higher than that of my 28 footer!
If you are referring to the 25FB's running weight of 7,400#, this is an actual weight on a truck scale. We have weighed Lucy twice over the years, and the weight was virtually the same each time.

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This is a response to a post by crispyboy in the the 16" LT Tire thread. I have brought his post over here, not wanting to through the other thread way off topic.

"So Brian, now you have our curiosity up - after 116,000 miles - how did your trailer hold up? Has anything worn out specifically or were you just ready for a change?
Are you going to switch to 16" LT tires, use the Michelin XL 15" tires or roll the dice on the ST tires for awhile?
Of course you must tell us more about the new trailer![/QUOTE]"

Hi Steve,

To answer your question, Old Lucy held up very well. We camped in her for 1,380 nights, and towed her 116,000 miles over the last eight years. There are not a lot of Airstreams that have gotten that much use in twice that amount of time. Throughout the years, Old Lucy has been plagues with various leaks, mainly around the windows and, more recently, at the front and rear floor belt lines. Old Lucy has been to Jackson Center twice over the years. The leaks were fixed at the Service Center but, within a year or two, reappeared.

Old Lucy is starting to show wear on interior components. The mouse fur walls are starting to look a little dingy and are yellowing. The upholstery is showing signs of wear. None of these things non-repairable. We were about ready to take her to Jackson Center for a make-over.

On our way back from our recent Wyoming trip, we discussed the possibility of going to a 23FB. Since the Airstream Dealer in Gulfport, Mississippi was on the way home, we decided to stop and take a look. We each spent 30 minutes sitting in two different 23FBs so that one of us would not influence the other. We both decided that we could live in a 23FB, and that it was time for a change.

We struck a deal on New Lucy, and are now in the process of getting our stuff and personal touches out of Old Lucy.

As New Lucy comes with 14" wheels, we are considering going to 15" wheels with LT or P tires. As our holiday season camping routine is all in Florida, we probably won't address the tire issue until January or February.

New Lucy is a 2012 23FB that was traded in on a 2014 Flying Cloud 19. She has some nice up-grades including very nice pleated window shades throughout, and a state-of-the-art rear view camera system. She is pristine, not showing any signs of wear.

We will pickup New Lucy in about two weeks. Baby pictures will be posted at that time. We are looking forward to this change.

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Brian,

Please provide details about the "state of the art rear view camera system" in your New Lucy.

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I want pictures of the. "State of the art rearview camera system".
I have a rearview camera on my truck, which is handy for hitching up.
I want a camera on the back of the trailer for backing into a campsite.
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As we are not picking-up New Lucy for another two weeks, I can't yet provide any assessment or photos of her rear view camera system. I will make getting this information out a priority.

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