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Old 10-17-2013, 10:28 AM   #43
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In reviewing the specifications of the 2012 FC 23FB that I have just purchased, I have oticed something odd. The hitch weight, as shown in the Airstream brochure for the 23FB is 467#. I have also noted that the hitch weight for the 19' is 550#, 20' is 631#, 23D is 720#, and the 25FB is 837#.

Is this a misprint in the brochure?

I also checked the Flying Cloud spec sheet on the Airstream Website, and it shows the same figures.

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:39 AM   #44
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I also noticed that when we bought our 25FB; I never could find a good reason. I might have preferred the 23FB from a weight standpoint but we could not live with the dinette over the wheel well, which they seem to have addressed now.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:10 AM   #45
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It's not a misprint. The low hitch weight is why we purchased our 2011 23fb International. We pack very light for mainly weekend trips, and I have checked our tw with a sherline scale: right over 500lbs with no water in tank (water heater was full).
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:39 PM   #46
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That's welcome news. That will be about half the tongue weight of our 25FB. We are really looking forward to our downsizing from our 25FB.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:34 PM   #47
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We are planning our switch over from Old Lucy to New Lucy and have decided to empty Old Lucy out into boxes on the garage floor. Those items that we have not used in the last eight years will not be going into New Lucy.
The New Lucy is going to be a leaner, meaner traveling machine.

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Old 10-17-2013, 05:52 PM   #48
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The 23'fb is longer then the other 23' Airstreams and I believe most of that extra length is behind the axles to make room for the door behind the axles, which is why it has less tongue weight.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:35 PM   #49
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In reviewing the specifications of the 2012 FC 23FB that I have just purchased, I have oticed something odd. The hitch weight, as shown in the Airstream brochure for the 23FB is 467#. I have also noted that the hitch weight for the 19' is 550#, 20' is 631#, 23D is 720#, and the 25FB is 837#. Is this a misprint in the brochure? I also checked the Flying Cloud spec sheet on the Airstream Website, and it shows the same figures. Brian
Brian,

That published tongue weight is misleading, at least for our 2011 FC23FB.
I weighed our unit on accurate automotive scales with the following results:

Jalan Jalan Weights, lbs
Tongue 785
Right Front 1260
Left Front 1332
Front Axle 2592
Right Rear 1187
Left Rear 1109
Rear Axle 2296
Total Trailer 5673
% Tongue Weight 14%
Equalizer Hitch Assembly 91
“Hitch Weight” on Receiver 876

Normal Towing Loads
Full Fresh Tank
Empty Waste Tanks
Full Propane Tanks
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:13 PM   #50
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Thanks for that info, Joe. Even though your tongue weight is more than I would have expected, your gross trailer weight at 5673# is encouraging. Our 2005 25FB tips the scales at 7420#. We are looking forward to being smaller and towing less stuff around.

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Brian , I don't think your diesel will notice the difference.
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Brian , I don't think your diesel will notice the difference.
I agree. The Duramax will probably not even notice the lighter trailer. We still have and tow with our 2005 Suburban 2500. As a matter of fact, we are now camped over in Jacksonville, and we towed Lucy over here with the Suburban. I do think that the old Suburban will definitely notice the difference when we go to the 23FB.

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I believe most of the towing resistance on relatively level roadways is not weight, but wind. We did not notice a difference when going from 20' to 25' with a 4.7 Tundra, only on steeper grades or stiff headwind.
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Congratulations...
That is a very nice layout!
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I believe most of the towing resistance on relatively level roadways is not weight, but wind. We did not notice a difference when going from 20' to 25' with a 4.7 Tundra, only on steeper grades or stiff headwind.
With our DMAX there has not been a nickel's worth of fuel milage difference among the '05 Bambi, '07 23 Safari, or '10 25' FB Cloud. They all have the same frontal area. Our '64 Bambi II with the reduced frontal area gets us a couple more MPG.

BTW. The 23' Safari was my favorite trailer until my wife was incompacitated with a broken leg and full length brace while we were on the road. The rear double bed and bath were almost impossible to use. Hence the 25' FB.
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Hi from AZ. . .I'm convinced the deal with the GYM's is 'you get a good set or you don't'. Our GYM's are '07 date code, probably installed on our S 25 in '09, & have been trouble free. zero problems. The new-to-us FC 28 also has GYM's so I'll still be reading these threads, but I'm also convinced there is NO consensus on tires on this forum, & apparently, never will be. Regards, Craig
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