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Old 07-31-2014, 06:47 AM   #295
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Thanks everyone for weighing in on the shower issue. I think our problem was probably due to a combination of not being completely level and the gap. (The level on our hitch is NOT a reliable indicator of being level!!)
A level will be going on our next trip, packing list!


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Old 07-31-2014, 07:02 AM   #296
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I didn't think my level was any good either until I found out that it has to be calibrated using the three screws around the level. So, setup the trailer so that it was leveled and adjusted the three screws until the bubble was in the center. I still use a large side to side level that is fixed to the front of the trailer.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:24 AM   #297
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Concerning the shower leak on the 23FB -- we ran into a leak issue in our 2014 on our first trip. While keeping it level reduced the leak rate, the caulking/sealant along the seam of the shower at the bottom by the door had cracked. Water was flowing into that crack and between the door and the shower pan. After we would finish a shower, there would be a significant amount of water that had made its way out of the shower area and bathroom.

While we still do see a few expected drops just from the design of the door and splashes while in the shower, the main problem was fixed by resealing around the edge of the shower and pan.

Not sure if that is what you are seeing, but something to look for, and something we weren't expecting to see in our first trip out last February.

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Old 07-31-2014, 07:32 AM   #298
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Concerning the shower leak on the 23FB -- we ran into a leak issue in our 2014 on our first trip. While keeping it level reduced the leak rate, the caulking/sealant along the seam of the shower at the bottom by the door had cracked. Water was flowing into that crack and between the door and the shower pan. After we would finish a shower, there would be a significant amount of water that had made its way out of the shower area and bathroom.

While we still do see a few expected drops just from the design of the door and splashes while in the shower, the main problem was fixed by resealing around the edge of the shower and pan.

Not sure if that is what you are seeing, but something to look for, and something we weren't expecting to see in our first trip out last February.

Tom

I think that is what's going on with ours...how did you remedy it?


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Not sure what I did was the best solution, but as we found this at the start of a month on the gulf down in Texas, I did what I could think of at the time.

1. Removed, dried and replaced the panel below the shower door. This allowed me to get in there and really dry things up, as well as confirm that was where the water was going. After removing the panel, I noticed a strip of wood that was screwed to the floor that kept water from under the shower pan and forced it out into the trailer.

2. Removed the screws attaching the door frame around the shower. Doing this allowed me to remove and clean up all of the existing caulk/sealant.

3. After re-attaching the door, I used a silicone sealant around the frame at the bottom and sides. Not being a pro and, like every other time I have applied caulk, I was heavy-handed. But, given we were away from home and we wanted to make sure and stop the leaking I didn't mind too much.

I am not sure that the silicone sealant is the best choice and given time (now for example) I would have asked what the recommended caulk/sealant would be in an RV shower. I wanted something that would flex and not separate.

Hope that helps. If anything, step #1 above helped confirm the separation in the factory sealant and that the water was going where it shouldn't.

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Old 07-31-2014, 08:29 AM   #300
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Not sure what I did was the best solution, but as we found this at the start of a month on the gulf down in Texas, I did what I could think of at the time.

1. Removed, dried and replaced the panel below the shower door. This allowed me to get in there and really dry things up, as well as confirm that was where the water was going. After removing the panel, I noticed a strip of wood that was screwed to the floor that kept water from under the shower pan and forced it out into the trailer.

2. Removed the screws attaching the door frame around the shower. Doing this allowed me to remove and clean up all of the existing caulk/sealant.

3. After re-attaching the door, I used a silicone sealant around the frame at the bottom and sides. Not being a pro and, like every other time I have applied caulk, I was heavy-handed. But, given we were away from home and we wanted to make sure and stop the leaking I didn't mind too much.

I am not sure that the silicone sealant is the best choice and given time (now for example) I would have asked what the recommended caulk/sealant would be in an RV shower. I wanted something that would flex and not separate.

Hope that helps. If anything, step #1 above helped confirm the separation in the factory sealant and that the water was going where it shouldn't.

Tom

Thanks so much for the detailed instructions. We just sent a message to our dealer to see if they think it's necessary to let them handle any repairs or if it may be a quick fix. I'll update the forums when I find out something...


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Old 07-31-2014, 09:01 AM   #301
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There was a gap in our Classic shower inside under the door threshold. A mirror will help you look at that space to see if you need caulking there. Water would run down the door and around the threshold and then between the fiberglass and the wood face panel thus getting the sub floor wet.

You could easily pump a full tube of caulk filling that gap and the space behind it.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:10 AM   #302
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The shower leak is a known problem with this model. If you do a search on "shower leak" you will find more posts on this topic. As others have said, a frequent culprit is the large gap between the pan and door. You can try self leveling DAP or other sealant but as you will find the gap is large and requires quite a bit of sealant. It also cracks with vibration so re-sealing may be required.

Other people have mentioned that they place a shower curtain against the door on the inside that covers the base of the door and have solved the problem that way.

Good luck. Let us know what works for you so we can benefit from your experience.

This is quite an annoying issue so hope Airstream is reading the forums.
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Old 08-03-2014, 02:27 PM   #303
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We are winding down our maiden voyage with "Beulah". We spent a little over a week in Michigan (after picking her up at Woodlands Travel Center in Grand Rapids) at Hartwick Pines State Park. (Loved it! It is a fantastic place: very nice sites and clean facilities.) While driving back through Ohio and West Virginia, we stopped at a rest stop for the night, unbeknownst to us, the plastic drain valve to the fresh water tank broke off, causing the tank to empty most of it's contents. We had enough water to brush our teeth, use the toilet. Not realizing we were out of water, we had turned the pump on and went to bed. We will not know for sure if the pump is burned out until we get home tomorrow! Praying it survived!
We are spending our last night on the road, at Highland Haven Airstream Park (south of Blacksburg, VA). What a wonderful place! So nice to be in a place where all you see are other AS's! (The whole time on the road, we only saw 2 other Airstreams!!) The location is heavenly. Tremendous views overlooking the Blue Ridge. We hate to end our trip!


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We are winding down our maiden voyage with "Beulah". We spent a little over a week in Michigan (after picking her up at Woodlands Travel Center in Grand Rapids) at Hartwick Pines State Park. (Loved it! It is a fantastic place: very nice sites and clean facilities.) While driving back through Ohio and West Virginia, we stopped at a rest stop for the night, unbeknownst to us, the plastic drain valve to the fresh water tank broke off, causing the tank to empty most of it's contents. We had enough water to brush our teeth, use the toilet. Not realizing we were out of water, we had turned the pump on and went to bed. We will not know for sure if the pump is burned out until we get home tomorrow! Praying it survived!
We are spending our last night on the road, at Highland Haven Airstream Park (south of Blacksburg, VA). What a wonderful place! So nice to be in a place where all you see are other AS's! (The whole time on the road, we only saw 2 other Airstreams!!) The location is heavenly. Tremendous views overlooking the Blue Ridge. We hate to end our trip!


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So glad you are enjoying her and sorry to hear about your pump. I just bought a Shurflo revolution pump so we have a backup for ours. You might check it out if yours is broken. I have heard pretty good things about them. You can get one for $70 on Amazon with free shipping. Hope your pump is not broken though.

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Old 08-03-2014, 05:35 PM   #305
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Thanks for the tip on the pump! As they say, sh*t happens, so I guess we can consider ourselves lucky that a part that is relatively easy to replace and won't break the bank, is the one that goes out first! Who knows, maybe we'll be lucky and only have to replace the plastic valve thingy!
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Our pump on our 23FB makes a fair amount of noise. You guys must have had the AC running, or TV not to hear it. Unless, I have a unusually loud one, which may certainly be the case. For $70, I'm going to check out the sureflo mentioned above.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:42 AM   #307
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Gettinaway, yes our pump is very loud too. We were very aware that we didn't hear the characteristic sound, but we didn't know WHY we weren't hearing it. We didn't find out til the next day, that our water tank was empty, due to the broken stopcock valve. My husband spent ALL day yesterday replacing the $5 plastic valve. What an incredibly BAD design Airstream has in this water tank/valve. He spent the entire time finding a way to NOT hack up the tank to install it. As one of our AS forum members so helpfully posted with his identical problem, proves this to be, not one of AS's better ideas. Still haven't been able to test the pump with a full tank yet, but likely it is burned out...


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Old 08-07-2014, 07:13 AM   #308
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We had to replace our water pump early on, and it's not a big deal. Like you said, it's one of the cheapest things to deal with, and if your pump is located in the same place as ours (under the roadside wardrobe base) it's really easy to get to and replace. For longer trips we'll be keeping a spare with us, since it's something you'd hate to lose for long.
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