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Old 10-12-2013, 10:04 AM   #15
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The 23 footer sounds great. The lighter weight may give you more options on tires. How is the truck camper working out? We found an unopened package of moose tags which will come in handy in the Avion and truck. They were a gift from you at TOG years ago. Good luck with the choice of trailers. Jim
Hi Jim. The truck camper has worked out very well for us. It has given us the option of spending the night in the back country without Lucy. It also gives us a an additional 7.5 cubic foot refrigerator/freezer. This makes the 5 cubic foot refer in the 23FB doable. Glad you can use the Moose Tags.

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Old 10-12-2013, 10:08 AM   #16
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Hi Brian,
We kept the 15" wheels on our 28' Safari and went with the Michelins. There are hundreds of Airstreams using them without issue and we have at least 10k on ours. Personally I wouldn't have any more confidence in a 14" GYM than a 15" one. I have read of your troubles with them as well as the Maxxis. BTW, does Lucy know about this?
Yes, Lucy knows. She was with us when we stopped to look at the 23FB's in Gulfport.

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Old 10-12-2013, 10:23 AM   #17
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After two years with the 23FB, we moved up to the 25. Needed more space for longer trips.

Had no issues with the tires.

BUT, you should consider the 2014 23FB. The dinette is vastly improved with a seating configuration that should actually seat four!
Thanks for the tip on the dinette. We did notice that while we were looking at the dealer.

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Old 10-12-2013, 10:25 AM   #18
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Here's a link to a Forums thread on the subject:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...els-89913.html

Great thread. Thanks for the link.

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Old 10-12-2013, 10:31 AM   #19
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Even if you put 15" wheels on it, you're still going to have 10" rather than 12" brakes. Anyone see that as an issue?
I would definitely rather have the 12" brakes. The 23FB is quite a bit lighter and we are towing with a one ton truck. I think that we can deal with the smaller brakes.

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http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...-lt-96716.html

Here is another applicable thread..........
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And if you don't want GYM's but want to stick with 14" wheels the following are options I've picked up on the forums:

Maxxis M8008 ST radials 215/75 R14; Kumho Radial 857 205R14c
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Old 10-12-2013, 05:07 PM   #22
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And if you don't want GYM's but want to stick with 14" wheels the following are options I've picked up on the forums:

Maxxis M8008 ST radials 215/75 R14; Kumho Radial 857 205R14c
Thank you so much for the link to this thread.

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Our 23' Safari and Goodyear Marathon Tires

Hi Brian,

Our 2007 23' Safari has worked well for us as documented in my ongoing thread, "SilverGate's Safari is Home at Last!".

Our original 6-year old 14" Goodyear Marathon tires worked so well for us, the way we use them, that we replaced them with a new set of Goodyear Marathon tires!

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Old 10-12-2013, 06:38 PM   #24
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We are considering downsizing to a 23FB. We found a really nice 2012 that has hardily been used. We have already decided that the 23FB will work for us from a camping standpoint. We are a little concerned about the 14" ST Marathons.

What's the consensus on the 14" ST tires and the possible replacements?

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Ahoy Brian,

I'll offer that we've been very happy with our 2011 FC23FB. It fits our travel style and the NP and BLM sites that we prefer. Regarding tires, I ran the original 14" GYM's for 24000 miles and had no problems, save for one flat due to a nail. I replaced them after two years with MICHELIN LTX M/S 2 on RACELINE 870 Wheels, and have been delighted with the performance and additional ground clearance.

Our other major mod has been 2 x 85 watt solar panels, a MPPT controller, and GP24 AGM batteries. This provides us with ample power for boondocking in all seasons. We've stopped toting the Yamaha 2400is, unless we expect to need the AirCon.


I purchased the wheels & tires from performanceplustires.com. I mention this because the price and delivery were excellent. They were delivered mounted and balanced, and fit perfectly. New hubcaps were included. It was a very easy change. I now have about 6000 miles on them and am completely satisfied.
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:01 AM   #25
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Ahoy Brian,

I'll offer that we've been very happy with our 2011 FC23FB. It fits our travel style and the NP and BLM sites that we prefer. Regarding tires, I ran the original 14" GYM's for 24000 miles and had no problems, save for one flat due to a nail. I replaced them after two years with MICHELIN LTX M/S 2 on RACELINE 870 Wheels, and have been delighted with the performance and additional ground clearance.

Our other major mod has been 2 x 85 watt solar panels, a MPPT controller, and GP24 AGM batteries. This provides us with ample power for boondocking in all seasons. We've stopped toting the Yamaha 2400is, unless we expect to need the AirCon.


I purchased the wheels & tires from performanceplustires.com. I mention this because the price and delivery were excellent. They were delivered mounted and balanced, and fit perfectly. New hubcaps were included. It was a very easy change. I now have about 6000 miles on them and am completely satisfied.

Thank you so much for these tips and leads. I have printed your post to keep for future reference if we end making this switch to a 23FB.

Could you give me the stock number and exact size of the wheels that you are using on your 23FB?

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Thank you so much for these tips and leads. I have printed your post to keep for future reference if we end making this switch to a 23FB. Could you give me the stock number and exact size of the wheels that you are using on your 23FB? Brian
Brian,

Here's the details:

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LTX M/S 2 MICHELIN TIRES - LTX M/S 2 P235/75R15 #36210
RACELINE WHEELS - 870 TRAILER ALUMINUM 15x6 Part # 870-56012

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Moosetags,

Tires blah, blah, blah. Wheels blah, blah, blah. Here's the big question: what are you going to name her?
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Another data point: we upgraded the running gear on our 23' Safari SE to 15x6 wheels from etrailer.com and Nokian Hakka C Van tires in 205/70/15. It kept us close to the original diameter and moved up to Load Range D. No complaints in 10,000 miles.

We also love the 23' trailer as it lets us squeeze into a lot of tight Vermont state park campsites. Got to say though, if it wasn't for that - I'd probably own a 25FB.

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