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Old 05-14-2015, 05:33 PM   #29
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My husband was lamenting that fact last night-- that in my brother- and sister-in-law's honking huge Class A, every last outlet also works off the inverter. It kind of stinks. They kept trying to push us into a motorhome, but I've been Airstream-obsessed since I was at least 5 years old, so that just wasn't going to happen!

The inverter outlets are easy to spot in an Airstream because of the little blue labels, but here is a link to a thread from last year that adds another fly to the ointment:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f447...ms-127817.html

Here's a link to a photo showing just what they are talking about-- scroll down to the photo of the TV in the bedroom and enlarge it, and you'll see it only has one open plug:

Airstream Trailer For Sale VA - 2015 Airstream International Serenity Series 28W

I do understand them wanting to keep people from overloading those outlets-- there are no doubt plenty of folks who don't know any better.

Fortunately, in most situations it's really not a big deal. We know lots of people who use a CPAP machine, but we're the only couple we know where both parties use them.

This is definitely something about which I wish RV manufacturers were more proactive. It's not like CPAP usage is all that uncommon anymore, but you go through one RV after another at a show and it's frustrating how many have no nightstands and sometimes not even any outlets anywhere near the bed. At least Airstream gives us a number of options (and in a pretty darned stylish package, too!)

Our local Airstream dealer has been absolutely great about working with us to determine the best solution, because they help customers with this issue all the time.
It's simple.... if the manufacturer just added 2 batteries. There's all sort of room for it, this would solve any issues with powering all plugs. And I can assure you, 4 batteries are no problem through a nighttime. Promise promise promise.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:33 PM   #30
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Some CPAP machines come with a car cigarette lighter adapter, so it is possible to do everything on 12 volt except run the air conditioner. 2 Honda EU2000i generators daisy chained together should easily run 1 a/c unit. It would take a much larger, less portable generator to run 2 a/c units.
All true!
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:36 PM   #31
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I've been RVing with my family forever. We started in a tag Aljo, moved to an Avion FW. I'm highly functioning but do have Aspergers Syndrome (found out this year) and perhaps thats why I've been obsessed with RVing (Class A's in particular) since the first day I saw our friends 1978 Diplomat. So since I was a child I'd squirreled away money (my father also had me investing at age 12) and thanks to a few great buys (HP lol) I was able to buy a Winnebago Rialta when I turned 16. (If already been given a car). It wasn't quite a class B but it was driveable and I loves it. Well anyone with an Interstate knows how tiny and impractical they are (no matter how cute and fuel efficient) so I upgraded to a 38' Fleetwood Bounder. But I'd never forgotten my friends Diplomat and knew that it was diesel or notion. So a year and a half ago I became a flat-front streamer with my '00 XC diesel. I love it. Well took my parents only a few trips with me to realize what I already knew: Class A all day lol. Now they own my dream motorhome (I literally have dreams about it) a '06 45' Newell Coach quad slide. (She'll be mine one day). I'm sorry yall but in towables it's all about the destination but in a driveable the journeys just as fun. I guess basically where I'm going with this whole post is WHYYY?!?! I swear you're the 20th person I've talked to this year that's downsizing from their DP. I'll never get it.
Are Airstreams the most stunning RVs on earth? No doubt. But those looks come at too high a cost for me: NO STORAGE. I imagine you have a basement in your DP and I know mine is stuffed to the gills. You're gonna need a big pickup lol. And a new TV. I'm one of the few people whose toad can easily tow a 27' TT lol. I say if you want to downsize look at the XC Diesel Class A AS made. The earlier ones are called the Clipper. I've seen two people trade down for a towable so far this year and they're not happy. Don't get me wrong everyone I've met and know who's started in a towable LOVES it. But everyone who downsized is just not feeling it. Setting up is going to take you forever. Last I checked TTs don't have auto levelers.

Okay I'm done with my rant. Lol. Out of curiousity what was your DP?
Fleetwood Revolution LE

It was fine, but pricey.

Got a big truck, no problem there. Each version of travel has their ups and downs, from tents to class A's.
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Another option that we followed. We only ordered the 50 amp service for the second air conditioner. Once in our possession we modified the entire electrical system by adding 800 watts of solar and recently a single lithium iron phosphate battery that resides under the sofa. The battery is rated 600 amp hours at 12Vdc and at least 80 to 85% of the power is usable. All factory outlets plus the ones we added are powered by the Magnum MS-2812 inverter all the time whether plugged into shore power or running off the battery. The Magnum can produce up to 2,800 watts of power and would even start the air conditioner for a brief time.

Just up the road in Paradise, Texas (northwest of DFW near Dexter) is A&P Vintage Trailer Works who did all of my conversion work. Give Paul Mayeau a call at (817) 919-3651 to discuss some options. We added outlets wherever needed.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:11 PM   #34
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It's simple.... if the manufacturer just added 2 batteries. There's all sort of room for it, this would solve any issues with powering all plugs. And I can assure you, 4 batteries are no problem through a nighttime. Promise promise promise.
I used to make it through the night easily on a single battery when we tent camped, so I know it's not that complicated.

Last year, someone local to us listed a 23FB Flying Cloud into which he'd installed a very impressive, custom solar panel system with a fancy inverter and four batteries. We were very tempted by it, but at the end of the day I was still stuck on the International Signature interiors and the 23FB just didn't quite meet our particular needs. I'll bet that whoever bought it has been pleased!
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:44 PM   #35
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Another option that we followed. We only ordered the 50 amp service for the second air conditioner. Once in our possession we modified the entire electrical system by adding 800 watts of solar and recently a single lithium iron phosphate battery that resides under the sofa. The battery is rated 600 amp hours at 12Vdc and at least 80 to 85% of the power is usable. All factory outlets plus the ones we added are powered by the Magnum MS-2812 inverter all the time whether plugged into shore power or running off the battery. The Magnum can produce up to 2,800 watts of power and would even start the air conditioner for a brief time.

Just up the road in Paradise, Texas (northwest of DFW near Dexter) is A&P Vintage Trailer Works who did all of my conversion work. Give Paul Mayeau a call at (817) 919-3651 to discuss some options. We added outlets wherever needed.
Now THAT is pretty cool!

Now that I think about it, I've seen their website before. That's definitely something we'd consider at some point, especially if we should end up doing more boondocking than not.

We actually talked about doing something similar to provide extra battery power just to the back of the trailer, but figured we'd give the C-100 battery packs a try. That may be all we need.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:25 PM   #36
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Fleetwood Revolution LE

It was fine, but pricey.

Got a big truck, no problem there. Each version of travel has their ups and downs, from tents to class A's.
Too funny I almost bought a Revolution instead of my AS. But as you now know even Fleetwood's American line of products just feel cheap inside by comparison. I'm glad you're TT's working out so well. And I find it weird that the outlets don't run automatically off the inverters when not on shore power. My XC's outlets all work that way. Go figure.

I really hope AS brings back class A's as I've got the bigger-better-faster itch already and there's only so many things one can upgrade (ok I laughed as I typed that because I can probably find a million more little things till the end of time)
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Another option that we followed. We only ordered the 50 amp service for the second air conditioner. Once in our possession we modified the entire electrical system by adding 800 watts of solar and recently a single lithium iron phosphate battery that resides under the sofa. The battery is rated 600 amp hours at 12Vdc and at least 80 to 85% of the power is usable. All factory outlets plus the ones we added are powered by the Magnum MS-2812 inverter all the time whether plugged into shore power or running off the battery. The Magnum can produce up to 2,800 watts of power and would even start the air conditioner for a brief time.

Just up the road in Paradise, Texas (northwest of DFW near Dexter) is A&P Vintage Trailer Works who did all of my conversion work. Give Paul Mayeau a call at (817) 919-3651 to discuss some options. We added outlets wherever needed.
Brilliant! Will do!
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Thumbs up Cpap

I have 2014 FC 25' and use a CPAP machine EVERY night. When boondocking I have a battery pack that will give me 14 hrs w/o humidifier. When I have exhausted the battery pack I plug the CPAP into a 20' 12 volt extension cord into the charger outlet next to the stereo.
I also have two 100W solar panels mounted on the roof and 2 Honda 2000's to help out!
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