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Old 09-24-2012, 06:58 PM   #1
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Some folks just pulled in next to us that have a vexing problem. A fresh 28' Flying Cloud, from Geo. Sutton up in Oregon. The Dometic furnace seemed to be running hotter than I've experienced, but, hey, a fresh coach, heat is good! I could smell nothing from the ducts. Here's where it gets weird: they told me about a "haze" in the coach when the furnace was on and (even weirder), dizzyness! They ran the furnace for a few minutes and I went back to the stern to check the "haze" location, and, wowsers, I got dizzy, too. The coach was back at JC and AS (claimed) they found globs of glue on top of the furnace, sent them on their way, but the problem still exists. The guy's wife, who has a better nose than I have, claims, she STILL smells glue when the furnace is on. Question to the forums would be, (A) Why JC could not fix it? (B) What the heck has happened on a brand new coach to cause this? They are going to try to run it , with vents open, while they sit outside, to see if the furnace will burn whatever the heck is causing this, but, geez, I could feel the dizzyness right away (no, I had not been poking down Pacificos all day), and I'm worried for them. Their rear sensor showed no carbon monoxide.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:32 PM   #2
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Rent it to some crack heads, they love the smell of glue!
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:41 PM   #3
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I believe that the heat exchangers also have a thin layer of oil sprayed on them to prevent corrosion during shipping and prior to installation. But I would think that would be burned off after an hour or so of lit operation. Has this furnacew seen a lot of lit on time?
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That's the quandry: they bought the coach in Oregon, went back east to see their daughter, the smell, haze and dizzyness existed from the git, I think. So, I'd think any oil or fluids would be long gone by then. Jackson Center pulled the furnace and (said) they tested it.
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Might check for carbon monoxide.
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Sounds like maybe they got the "sunshine treatment". I can't think of anything in that Hydraflame furnace that would cause a glue smell, especially this long running it. If it was here, I'd pull it out and run it on the bench, and see (smell) if the problem stayed with the furnace. If there was no smell, I'd start examining the ducts.
I know you're not an expert, but does it smell like hot glue, burning plastic, acetone? It's unlikely, but possible, that a tube of something (Parrbond, Vulkem) got left in one of the ducts, and when the hot air blows on it, it vents fumes.
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I say....take it back to JC and lock a couple of their techs inside for a few minutes with the heater on! Maybe that will get someone's attention....
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:09 PM   #8
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Sounds like maybe they got the "sunshine treatment". I can't think of anything in that Hydraflame furnace that would cause a glue smell, especially this long running it. If it was here, I'd pull it out and run it on the bench, and see (smell) if the problem stayed with the furnace. If there was no smell, I'd start examining the ducts.
I know you're not an expert, but does it smell like hot glue, burning plastic, acetone? It's unlikely, but possible, that a tube of something (Parrbond, Vulkem) got left in one of the ducts, and when the hot air blows on it, it vents fumes.
I could not smell anything, and I am an expert on all burning mo/ho issues.I was thinking the same thing: "Let's see where did I put that tube of caulk, oh well, who cares, I just got fired today."
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I think Terry and Mike may have figured it out.....When I pulled the entire interior and floor out on my "73, I found a half tube of Vulkem crammed down between the outer wall and the wheel well on the roadside. That could have been easily removed by the guy that "dropped" it there at the time he was building the camper. Obviously, there's a problem. Airstream should make this right before somebody is injured--or worse.

YMMV, just my 2 cents, but I'd be screaming at Airstream at this point.

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They are right on the cusp of good weather back to Geo. Sutton in Oregon, I'm going to suggest that option as there seems no decent AS warranty station (that I could find), down here. Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll come back to this thread if I ever hear what happened.
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Could one of you MODS switch this thread to "2012 Flying Cloud"? It could be this problem would exist in other coaches. Thanks, M
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Fascinating problem. Could the ducts be scoped with a camera?
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Fascinating problem. Could the ducts be scoped with a camera?
I know they make a "sniffer" for propane, wonder if there is the same type of device for fumes? I keep going back to smelling the duct in the front and being amazed how hot it was. The "haze" could be observed from the stern looking forward and my dizzyness came from the stern, as well.
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The truth comes out, it's an Atwood furnace. Here's a pic that the owners sent me when the furnace is on: I'd rather smoke my Kools!
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