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Old 10-11-2014, 10:50 AM   #71
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The Fiamma does not fold down for compartment access. Sure wish it did, as it is a PITA to get stuff in and out, but I have gotten used to it. My biggest issue was emergency window access as I described earlier, and I just have to loosen and move the handlebars to face back and I have (just barely) clearance.


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Old 10-11-2014, 11:49 AM   #72
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bike rack

Here was our solution. We had a vertical receiver hitch welded behind the propane tank storage to accept the bike rack. We carried a compact step ladder to get them up and down. It worked great all the way from Colorado to Alaska and back.http://www.airforums.com/forums/atta...1&d=1413046078
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:37 PM   #73
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I'm jealous of folks who can overload the tongue weight of their trailer, possibly the axle weight of their truck, use no weight distribution hitch and never get in trouble. I would never be that lucky.
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Old 10-11-2014, 11:11 PM   #74
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Old 10-12-2014, 11:15 AM   #75
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I also have a Fiamma which blocks access to the storage space. Going forward Fiamma should either come up with a design that swings away or since Airstream is the only source for the rack they should make the storage access to the sides as some earlier have. I would be willing to give up the lower portion of my closets to get better access to the larger storage area.
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #76
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I'm adding an angle iron cross member to the frame just behind the bumper under the bumper storage box. Then attaching a Reese hitch receiver to the angle iron piece. This will hold our hitch-type bike rack. I DID consider the Fiamma unit, but we often transport our bikes to trail heads using our TV. With this setup I can move the bike rack to the TV and don't have to carry another bike rack. I'll post pics when the install is complete.


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Old 10-12-2014, 08:50 PM   #77
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Well TCWheels I did the very same thing. I weld so I made a frame that I bolted between the frame under bumper. Got the 2" receiver at Walmart and it bolts to my frame. My rack holds three bikes and it looks good there as well. Good luck with yours.


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I feel that the back end of your Airstream, is headed for trouble.

Contrary to opinion, the "shell" holds up the frame.

When adding weight to the frame, you adding an addition load on the fasteners that hold the frame up to the shell.

Unless you add additional fasteners, in time, you will find that the frame will separate from the shell. That in itself, causes many other issues.

Adding that extra piece of metal between the frame, actually makes the issue even worse.

Then take the weight you have added.

Measure from the center of the rear most axle, back to the rack you have added, in feet. Guessing in your case about 8 feet, times the weight of the bikes, lets say 100 pounds.

The total moment arm weight, sitting still then is 800 pounds. When you hit a bump, that weight multiplies depending on the severity of the bump. Therefore very easily, you can get up to 2000 pounds or more. The rear end hold down fasteners were never designed to handle that weight.

Moment arm is the principle of a crow bar, and is exactly the same on any overhang, such as the bumper.

In the case of the Fiama bick rack, it's also attached to the shell, which minimizes the problem.

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Well TCWheels I did the very same thing. I weld so I made a frame that I bolted between the frame under bumper. Got the 2" receiver at Walmart and it bolts to my frame. My rack holds three bikes and it looks good there as well. Good luck with yours.

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Thanks Silver bp. Nice bike BTW!

If it's not too much trouble could you post a couple of pics from the underside? I'd love to borrow your successful design.



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I'm jealous of folks who can overload the tongue weight of their trailer, possibly the axle weight of their truck, use no weight distribution hitch and never get in trouble. I would never be that lucky.
What makes you think the tongue weight of the trailer or rear axle are overloaded? Looks ok to the naked eye.

As for the weight distribution, it looks as if the trailer might be a 19 ft Bambi. Shorter/lighter trailers do not need weight distribution hitch as much a the longer/heavier ones. Specially if you drive at 55 mph (rather than 75 mph).
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Sure will I'm out of town now but will send a few more pictures when I get back. You might want to run them by Andy and get his approval.


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What makes you think the tongue weight of the trailer or rear axle are overloaded? Looks ok to the naked eye.

As for the weight distribution, it looks as if the trailer might be a 19 ft Bambi. Shorter/lighter trailers do not need weight distribution hitch as much a the longer/heavier ones. Specially if you drive at 55 mph (rather than 75 mph).
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