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Old 06-05-2014, 04:29 PM   #57
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There is a great article I read some time ago about Roku vs. Apple TV. The writer is familiar with both.

Apple TV vs. Roku 3: The great debate, revised - TechBlog

I have an Apple TV. Like the writer, I have quite a bit Apple- Laptop, Time Capsule, iPhone, iPad so it makes much more sense as they work well together. That is in the house. In the AS I got a Smart TV and WAS going to get an Apple TV but now I am not certain I need it. The new TVs are loaded with features. I can even attach a hard drive to my TV to access stored movie files without other equipment.

Aside from having the hobby of Airstream, I am a movie buff and have a very large DVD blueRay library. I share this because I have been working on a solution to porting movies with me. The biggest issue with all of this is the SOURCE and SELECTION.

If all you want to do is pick movies available on Netflix or Apple TV, etc. then stream on - you have to have a good Internet connection and a plan, any plan that I know of for Internet will not suffice if you watch much TV. The data limits are the problem. That leaves sucking all the bandwidth from the other campers in the park if you use the camp wireless. The point though is that you are certainly going to need a good Internet connection.

If you are sourcing your own collection a strategy is to find a DVD Juke Box that holds 400 discs. It is not a perfect solution but it requires the least work, simply plug in an HDMI cable from the unit to the TV and plug it in to the 120V and you have access to 400 movies you have loaded. I have a few of these.

The other personal library sourcing option requires that you "digitize" your movies on a hard drive. The good is that it will take the size down even more the bad is that unless you sacrifice video quality, you have to have some BIG hard drives. With all that work you will want to have it backed up and then you end up with a NAS or some type of redundant backup. Again, this is if you have a collection of discs that you want to watch. I have been able to simplify my life in many ways but this is NOT one of them. There are many people who have gone this route for their home theaters. Here is an online discussion/calculation of the size/space needed on hard drives:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1389016/on...f-sd-hd-movies

Naturally most of the talk and solutions out there are for pay as you watch or stream in this case but they often fail to address the home video library.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:16 AM   #58
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Can you be more specific about how to access wifi with Apple TV, Roku or other options? Not sure how to get internet access. Thanks...
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:43 AM   #59
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I have an Apple TV. Like the writer, I have quite a bit Apple- Laptop, Time Capsule, iPhone, iPad so it makes much more sense as they work well together. That is in the house. In the AS I got a Smart TV and WAS going to get an Apple TV but now I am not certain I need it. The new TVs are loaded with features. I can even attach a hard drive to my TV to access stored movie files without other equipment.

Aside from having the hobby of Airstream, I am a movie buff and have a very large DVD blueRay library. I share this because I have been working on a solution to porting movies with me. The biggest issue with all of this is the SOURCE and SELECTION.

Naturally most of the talk and solutions out there are for pay as you watch or stream in this case but they often fail to address the home video library.
Digitizing is the best bet for anyone on the road IMO. We have an Apple TV at home, I'll be putting it, plus an additional one in the Airstream. One front, one rear.

Our Samsung TV does movies via USB like you mentioned, but I found that it is picky about the video being in a few specific formats.

Most of my Blurry converted movies are MKV and it won't play those.

At home however, sometime ago we started using this app: Air Video HD - The all-new Air Video

It's called Air Video HD. You run one app on your computer, and point it to the folder or folders where your movies/tv/videos are stored. Then on your iPad or iPhone you can watch said videos. Best part, you can then airplay to the Apple TV.

It supports multiple users and multiple devices. So for us, we'll have the laptop usually always plugged in, with the app running in the background.

Anytime we want to run something, open up the app on my phone, airplay it to the TV.

I almost bought a Roku once but I don't want to spend time organizing crap. I just want to watch what I have and get it over with. As quickly as possible. And the Air Video HD solves that.
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PS: We've been avoiding smart TV's for one big reason, privacy. Apparently, Samsung, Sony and a few others think that it's perfectly ok to record all your viewing habits, location, even recording audio in your home and send it back to their servers, without ever telling you about it. Well only if you download and read the privacy statement. But you bought the TV, thus you agreed to it. Cheers.

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The only problem is that I’m now afraid to use it. You would be too — if you read through the 46-page privacy policy,” Price wrote. “The amount of data this thing collects is staggering. It logs where, when, how, and for how long you use the TV. It sets tracking cookies and beacons designed to detect ‘when you have viewed particular content or a particular email message.’ It records ‘the apps you use, the websites you visit, and how you interact with content.’ It ignores ‘do-not-track’ requests as a considered matter of policy.”
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Why Samsung's New TVs Are Too 'Smart' For Their Own Good | The Daily Caller
I’m terrified of my new TV: Why I’m scared to turn this thing on — and you’d be, too - Salon.com
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PS: We've been avoiding smart TV's for one big reason, privacy. Apparently, Samsung, Sony and a few others think that it's perfectly ok to record all your viewing habits, location, even recording audio in your home and send it back to their servers, without ever telling you about it. Well only if you download and read the privacy statement. But you bought the TV, thus you agreed to it. Cheers.



Sources:
Smart TV privacy and security: what you should know | BGR
Why Samsung's New TVs Are Too 'Smart' For Their Own Good | The Daily Caller
Im terrified of my new TV: Why Im scared to turn this thing on and youd be, too - Salon.com

A conversation I had with myself over this post... no reflection on any of the fine folks here.... just my weird sense of humor..

Guvmamint..: So... what do YOU have to WORRY ABOUT? Hmmmmm?

Answer: None of your d@%%#d business. But, if you 'must' know, I don't trust ya! so, there you are, the feeling is mutual..
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:14 PM   #62
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General reviews I've read of these smart apps included with TVs is they don't work as well as the apps on Apple TV or Roku. I have the Netflix app on my cable box at home and its a lot slower than the Netflix app in my 2nd gen Apple TV.

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Old 12-31-2014, 09:28 AM   #63
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We have had an Apple TV in our rig. Unfortunately most if not all CG regulate their WiFi and block these devises as the hog a ton of bandwidth. I have since taken it out of the TT.
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I would recommend you review what you want to view, and also how you currently synchronize your Apple device before considering AppleTV.

We both exclusively use Apple devices (iPhone and iPad) but decided not to synchronize to the cloud. Instead we synchronize and maintain for digital media on a 8TB NAS, even the iTunes library is on the NAS so any PC that can access the network drive can use the same library/media files. At home we have a Lenovo Q190 PC mounted on each TV, and any of them can access the NAS/use iTunes to play media. Our Apple devices are synchronized from our laptops, which have their own libraries but use the same NAS source of media, so for example I have different media on my iPad than my wife.

Being an Apple fan, I bought an AppleTV believing the hype, but after 3months we stopped using it, and after 6months it's disconnected sitting with all my old/redundant techno gear.....Why????

If I want to play media from my Apple device I have the Apple AV adapter (there are other brands available) and simply plug in the device to the TV HDMI (no worries about connectivity, getting on the Internet etc) and if I want something from the NAS, or something from the Internet I have installed another Q190 in the MH, it replaces, the BluRay. That is wired into the MH stereo (via a TOSlink to RCA converter) but also connects to our portable sound system via Bluetooth.

Just in case I can't get access to the home NAS I also carry a 2TB portable hard-disk (2hour of video at a reasonable resolution is 1GB, so 2TB is 4000hours of video content!) which plugs into the Q190, and sure beats carrying movies on disc (we rarely bother to access the NAS when travelling). Even if I didn't use the the NAS, $200 for a Q190 vs $100 for an AppleTV vs less than $50 for a non-Apple HDMI adapter means for me the AppleTV falls squarely between 'fancy way to do something simple' and 'not capable of doing everything fancy' and really only benefits those that synchronize to the Cloud (so want to get media into their Apple device, and can't rely on the HDMI adpater).
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The Roku has the capability of hooking up an external HD via USB and an app. already installed on it. What I have done is hooked-up my ext. WD HD to my Roku 3 which is hooked up via HDMI to TV and have access to the 400 +movies stored on my ext. WD HD. However, not all formats will play on Roku, therefore, you will have to convert them. I convert all of them to MP4 with a free program called Handbrake (Apple). If you like DVD you can always transfer the movies back with various programs out there.
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Many TVs allow an ext. HD to be plugged in directly as well..... not for me though. I have 5000 music and 4000 video files on my HD and need something like iTunes to manage the library.
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I rip rented DVDs via Handbrake and play back using VLC on my MacBook Air using a Thunderbolt to HDMI adapter to my TV. I can also play them back via my wife's iPad 2 via its HDMI adapter if I sync them from iTunes first. I have an iPad Air but it has a Lightning connector and requires a different HDMI adapter. If my Air can stream video to an ATV without a WIFI network that would be great but I don't have the latest ATV only a gen 2.

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I don't colleect movies and delete the fiile after watching the movie.

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