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Old 08-02-2012, 11:22 PM   #1
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What are the pros and cons between the front bedroom vs rear bedroom 25ft. Of course the location of the door, but what about livability? The rear bedroom model has a cooling fan on the refer. Is that bothersome? Bathrooms are different. What model is the bigger seller?
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:44 PM   #2
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We were sold on the 2012 rear bedroom because

1) We like the bed in the back (privacy) and the living in the front (the views we encountered are as much in front as out the back), and the door in the front.

2) The bathroom is much larger, identical to the new 30' Airstream.

3) The convention microwave is above the fridge, and we still have a gas oven.

4) The converter is under the lounge, not under the bed.

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:03 AM   #3
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For us the front bedroom was a better layout. We boondock more than not so we get the view from the rear panos while at the table. From the bedroom window up front we get the tow vehicle view which is fine as we don't need a view to sleep.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:25 AM   #4
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I think the view thing depends on what part of the country you camp in. Up here the rear view is often thick woods and brush.

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When we bought ours, I insisted on a front bedroom since we spend most of our time in the dinette enjoying the unobstructed view out the rear of the AS. Every time we camp, my wife thanks me for insisting on the FB. We have the wrap around windows front and rear but almost never open the curtains in the bedroom. I also made curtain rail extensions so we get the full view of the wrap around windows in the dining area.
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Curious to know the difference in hitch weights between the two when loaded with gear, food and clothes. Seems like there would be more weight up front with the RB since food and gear is up front.
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This is a front/rear dinette debate so in addition to my above listed benefits of front dinette . . .

5) The front dinette is shaded from the glaring, hot sun during the day by the "sunglasses", the rock guards.

6) The rear bed usually has more privacy from campground, so we leave the curtains open at night and "sleep under the stars".

7) When the weather's nice, who sits inside looking at views from either end. Picnic time! And who leaves the truck hooked to the camper at campgrounds. Time to sightsee, oh, and get a loaf of bread.

8) Ever time we go camping my wife thanks me for the larger bathroom, and having both a convection microwave and a gas oven.

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Old 08-03-2012, 12:23 PM   #8
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Curious to know the difference in hitch weights between the two when loaded with gear, food and clothes. Seems like there would be more weight up front with the RB since food and gear is up front.
The front rear storage space is very similar so I doubt that makes any difference. Much of our extra food and gear is stowed under the bed or in rear exterior storage compartment.

We're pretty fond of this new rear bed model, can you tell?

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The rear bedroom model has a cooling fan on the refer. Is that bothersome?
Amazing -- I hadn't realized that. I learned something ... again!

airstream.com specifications don't show fridges any more but colonialairstream.com does say that each has a "7 Cu.Ft. 2-Way Automatic Refrigerator."

And then Colonial does show the roof vent and only one access door on the 25' FB FC (what I have -- no fan). And no roof vent and two access doors on the 25' FC -- indicative of fan cooling in my experience.

We have friends with a fan cooled fridge on their 23' International. The fan is on a lot. One of them is a sensitive sleeper and they turn their fridge off at night. Yet it makes 1/100th the noise of an air conditioner running and I sleep through that without earplugs.

The floor schematic suggests they put a microwave over the fridge on the front door model which would explain the fan cooling. We ordered our 25' FB with a stovetop at counter height with a convection microwave installed underneath. Just us .. but I know we wouldn't have used a gas stove much. We aren't fulltiming either. For that I'd get the 27' FB International. Love that fore-and-aft queen!

We never had any love for nighttime navigation with the sideways queen in any 25' model. We got a twin bed version for that reason. There's more storage in the twin bed front bedroom without having to lift the mattress -- as well as extra outside storage compartments behind the battery compartment and under the roadside bed.

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The rear bedroom model has a cooling fan on the refer. Is that bothersome?
Not at all.

An unexpected plus we found in the FB model is that if you can reach the light switch with your toe while remaining snug and warm in bed.
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"The rear bedroom model has a cooling fan on the refer. Is that bothersome?"

Yes it is bothersome and is found on many models. Noisy. Over the years some owners have had fan switches installed inside the trailer, some models are built with the switch.

I installed a simple inline thumbwheel switch on the wire that leads to the thermal switch in the outside fridge compartment, and turn the fan off except perhaps on the hottest days when the sun is on the compartment. The fridge cools fine without the fan, and has an internal temp indicator above the door to check on it.

The upper and lower compartment doors allow good airflow through their louvers, and more if you wish to prop them open.

In a nutshell, the fan is not an issue if you simply turn it off, or remove it's inline fuse.

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We aren't fulltiming either. For that I'd get the 27' FB International. Love that fore-and-aft queen!
Being fond of rear bed Aisrtreams, I like to think of the 28' Airstream as the rear bed version of the 27' because the dimensions of each is virtually the same.

However with $10K extra cost and more trailer to deal with we passed. Full-timing may be another story, but that won't happen here.

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I believe a recliner version of the 25' trailers would be a "trailer for two" for extended, trips which we do. The dealership has told us they get many requests for it, but apparently Airstream feels the 30' recliner option fills that market.

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Right, Doug -- we're not fulltiming ... I'd probably say ever. I couldn't snowbird. There's just too much winter fun up here. Imagine how overrun we'd be if there were mountains in Minnesota.

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Being fond of rear bed Aisrtreams, I like to think of the 28' Airstream as the rear bed version of the 27' because the dimensions of each is virtually the same.
Yes, that's a real laugh. The 27 is spec'd at 29'0" and the 28 is supposed to be 28' 11". Would have been an interesting marketing meeting to sit in on -- or not.
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