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gypsydad · 10-21-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KJRitchie

Isn't the living area of a 27' the same as a 25FB/twin? The length of the 27 gains you a larger hall closet, larger pantry but some of its taken up by the slide out microwave and a little more kitchen counter space. Is the 27 hall closet wider than the two closests in a 25fb/twin? The 28 doesn't have a pantry but its got overhead cabiinets over the dinette which the 25/27 doesn't have over the side gaucho and the two wardrobes on each side of the 28 bed curve to the top so how much can you put in those closets?

Kelvin

Kelvin

27 has same size lounge area as 25 FB Twin I believe; you gain closet space (about 2X wider; 2 doors) mid ship and some kitchen counter space also. The 28 does not have pantry, just more cupboards with additional storage under galley seats, some storage under couch and behind below large window is drop storage. As for storage in bed area with 2 shirt closets and overhead, not sure. Queen lifts, I believe for additional storage; we have enough storage in our 25 twin for our needs, but we are not full timing. We keep our trailer ready to roll, however, so other than food, we don't need any clothing of any kind. I would think most folks can make due with what is standard for that storage and as I am a fan of the twin model, you also get the extra night stand drawer. (which my wife hogs)

gypsydad · 10-21-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HASANCHEZ

gypsydad: Thank you very much for your insight and advice. I guess, aside from actually going to a AS Dealership (which the closest one to me is in Fairfield, CA....not from from Napa!)......is to actually "Rent" an Airstream 2 or 3 times and get the feel of it. Getting pretty excited about full retirement.......I (we) want to make sure we have a fairly good idea about what we want to do with our extra time (like traveling around our own country). 27' AS might be the way to go. I'll have to take a look at the twin model as you suggested. I am 5'10" tall. Don't think I would have any problems with the size of the twin bed (from what I have read)......but, I don't mind sleeping the Queen size bed either. Guess it's all about storage space as you pointed out.

So........I'm constantly reading many of the Threads in AirForum which I have found to be extremely helpful in my thought process regarding AS.

If you don't mind.......I will be more than likely to ask you additional questions. I live in Sacramento (again, not far from Napa.....maybe someday we'll meet).

Again, Thank you.

Henry

Henry- my advise: go visit Bay Area Airstream Adventures in Fairfield-they have multiple models of each size....(you can stop by the Budweiser plant and also the Jelly Belly plant while there!) Anyway, plan a couple hours at least. Lay on the beds both twin and queen (both of you)...imagine dressing, step into the shower and bathroom; stand in front of stove and sink...think about cooking and cleaning (round sink; need to think about round rinsing pan that fits inside....start looking at difference in Flying Cloud vs International vs Classic models- then look real close at 25' front bed/rear bed, 27 and 28; Ask them to show you the manual awning set up vs power awning. All this takes a little time and if your like us, you may come back again and again...take notes and pictures...they equip their models with 1000W inverter and awnings on all the windows which is nice...if I can help, let me know.

**moosetags** · 10-21-2014, 09:27 PM

I think that I have the bathroom mirror problem solved. While we were in Jacksonville, the piano bench top holders arrived. I installed one today on the bathroom mirror. One seems to do the job. I had ordered two, so I put the other one on the cabinet door over the refrigerator. Both seem to do the job.

Here are a few pictures.

Brian

gandttimes · 10-21-2014, 09:46 PM

Moosetags, are these actually listed as piano bench hinges? I need to do exactly the same thing, but I have been to all the hardware stores on my area and nothing.
Where did you find them?

George

**moosetags** · 10-22-2014, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gmeikle

Moosetags, are these actually listed as piano bench hinges? I need to do exactly the same thing, but I have been to all the hardware stores on my area and nothing.
Where did you find them?

George

Good Morning George,

I found this hardware on Amazon by querying "Piano Bench Lid Support Hinge". The cost was $5.99 each plus shipping. These items were not on Amazon Prime.

I knew what I wanted as this was the type of prop that came from the factory on my 2005 Safari 25FB. I could not find these at Lowes, Home Depot, or other local hardware stores.

I purchased two of these as I was concerned that one would not be sufficient to support the heavy mirror door in Lucy's bathroom.

After I installed one of these supports on the left side of the door, I decided that it was sufficient to support the weight of the door. I decided to use the second one on the little cabinet over the refrigerator.

Brian

Airtandem · 10-22-2014, 07:37 AM

My 10 FC came with the same piano bench support as pictured. A problem to watch is that the screws that hold the mirror to the cabinet are working loose all the time and I have to watch them. It is difficult to get a screwdriver into that location to tighten them.
mike 27937 AF/WBCCI

Dexterpix · 10-22-2014, 08:43 AM

Hi everyone,
The wife and I are new to the Airstream community and just pick up our new 2014 FC 25 TWIN rear bed. We had checked several floor plans both new and used. We had a couple of, I think unique, features not everyone looks at.

Yes the bathroom in the rear bed is larger and more functional for the area you have to use most toilet and sink.

The kitchen in the rear bedroom is "Left handed". Standing with the sink to the left the cabinetry and stove and fridge layout better if you are left handed.
Seems wierd but if you are left handed you would notice it a little. (I am left handed and do most of the cooking)

The rear bedroom layout puts the door to the front of the camp site when you back in. Anyone coming to knock on the door (and they already have just in the first trip out) only walk to the front of the trailer not all the way along your whole site to reach the door.

With the bed in the back the dog doesn't seem bothered as much by people walking by on the campground road. She barks a lot less.

Also we love, love , love the twins beds. The room is functional for so much more then the queen bed in the same space allows.

Best of luck with any thing you might get

Joe and Stephanie

KJRitchie · 10-22-2014, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by moosetags

Good Morning George,

I found this hardware on Amazon by querying "Piano Bench Lid Support Hinge". The cost was $5.99 each plus shipping. These items were not on Amazon Prime.

I knew what I wanted as this was the type of prop that came from the factory on my 2005 Safari 25FB. I could not find these at Lowes, Home Depot, or other local hardware stores.

I purchased two of these as I was concerned that one would not be sufficient to support the heavy mirror door in Lucy's bathroom.

After I installed one of these supports on the left side of the door, I decided that it was sufficient to support the weight of the door. I decided to use the second one on the little cabinet over the refrigerator.

Brian

I removed mine from my Classic 25fb because my family was bending the the prop. They are so used to just lifting up and down on all the other cabinets so when it came to the mirror they did the same and bent and tore out the screws. Repaired it once and they bent it up again. Gave up.
I was wondering if two of the other type of supports would work on this heavier mirrored door.

Kelvin

**moosetags** · 10-22-2014, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KJRitchie

I removed mine from my Classic 25fb because my family was bending the the prop. They are so used to just lifting up and down on all the other cabinets so when it came to the mirror they did the same and bent and tore out the screws. Repaired it once and they bent it up again. Gave up.
I was wondering if two of the other type of supports would work on this heavier mirrored door.

Kelvin

I,m hoping that this piano bench lid support works in the long run. The one that came OEM on our 2005 Safari 25FB did the job for eight years and almost 1,400 nights of camping.

Brian

lsbrodsky · 10-22-2014, 09:41 AM

Kelvin,

I looked at some other support types online and most of them require a deeper cabinet and/or some careful measurements for placement in the cabinet. The beauty of the piano bench lid support is that it just has a screw for one side that you can locate after attaching the other end. I ordered a couple for my 25FB. Thanks
Larry

gandttimes · 10-22-2014, 10:06 AM

Thanks moosetags, I found them online and will order.

George

KJRitchie · 10-22-2014, 10:14 AM

Are the ones off Amazon more heavy duty than what came originally. They seem to bend if you apply any force. I may reinstall mine, if I can find it.

Kelvin

**moosetags** · 10-22-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KJRitchie

Are the ones off Amazon more heavy duty than what came originally. They seem to bend if you apply any force. I may reinstall mine, if I can find it.

Kelvin

The ones that I just bought off Amazon appear to be fairly heavy duty. I just don't remember the one on my 2005 25FB well enough to make a comparison.

Brian

HASANCHEZ · 10-22-2014, 04:36 PM

gypsydad: Thank you very much for the great advice. Think that's exactly what I'm (we) are going to do........sit and play at the AS dealership in Fairfield for an hour or so. Guess we'll have to do exactly what you're suggesting ......lay on the bed(s).....shuffle around the kitchen area and see how that pans out.......simulate taking a shower and see how much room is in those things.......and.....I guess.....really take a hard look at cabinet space for "stuff".

Regarding the comment "1000W inverter and awnings on all the windows" ...... I am NOT an electrician by any stretch of the imagination. What the heck is an "Inverter" and how does it contribute to the overall AS life style within the trailer. Can you provide me with some examples?

Really DO appreciate your valuable time you are spending on this AS rookie (meaning ME!)

Henry
Sacramento, CA