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Old 10-20-2015, 11:40 AM   #15
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Have the U-shape Dinette in 2015 FC. HATE it. Has anyone successfully got rid of it & replaced it w COMFORTABLE alternative?
I am so interested in your reason for hating the u-shaped dinette. Please elaborate.

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Old 10-21-2015, 07:40 PM   #16
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I am so interested in your reason for hating the u-shaped dinette. Please elaborate.

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The dinette seats & the table protrude too far into the kitchen. The cushions are too rigid for comfort. The curved cushions at the corners take up too much seating space. The table protrudes too far toward one's stomach when one is sitting at the dinette. The table moves too easily by accident. The bench cushion across the back is too narrow. The "bed" configuration is a piecemeal mess of cushions on which no one could sleep comfortably, and the bulky, curved corner cushions have to be stored somewhere. There is no place to lounge comfortably. One can only sit squished at the table.
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Old 10-21-2015, 10:21 PM   #17
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We have a 2016 23FB. We really like the bedroom queen bed and all the storage and closet space. We also like the rear bath. All in one and plenty of room. Our U shape table and seating is fine for two adults. We had a 23FB previously that had just the normal table and we actually like the U shape better.

I wish Airstream would offer a jacknife sofa option along that wall in place of the table and U shape seating. You could just use TV trays for eating. It would open up that area and provide comfortable seating. We might do that in the future. It would need to be a short sofa but I have seen them in trailers.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:18 PM   #18
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You can build a more comfortable dinette bench.

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Have the U-shape Dinette in 2015 FC. HATE it. Has anyone successfully got rid of it & replaced it w COMFORTABLE alternative?
We find the dinette floor plan in our 25FB a reasonable compromise for the use of space. We never make it into a bed/lounge. We do find it uncomfortable to sit at after a while. My wife is especially bothered, and so she has reconfigured the curb side bench. She installed a fixed backrest that is angled at 10 degrees, positioned to give her just the right seat pan depth. She also obtained new foam for the bottom and back cushions (two types of foam in each cushion). The cushions came back from the upholstery shop today.

Airstream's foam in our 2013 is relatively soft. Our new cushions have a firmer/better quality main layer with a thinner, softer layer on top.

And note this: The seat pan depth may be different between the two sides of the dinette (the difference was two inches on ours). Check yours and make sure you use the side that fits you best.
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Old 03-14-2016, 04:25 PM   #19
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U shaped dinette?

What is it you don't like about the u shaped dinette. Just purchased a 66 24ft trade wind twin and were considering changing out to a u shaped dinette. Having trouble finding plans or examples
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:27 PM   #20
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Presently have our 23' FC in for reno. Taking out the U dinette & putting in jackknife type couch w table top that slides out from armrest on one end & folds open when it's time to eat. 2 storage/extra seating ottomans to provide lounging option when table is stored away. Will post photos when complete. (Also getting rid of boring brown leatherette & replacing w turquoise! Yes!)
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:29 PM   #21
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See previous post for dislikes.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:23 PM   #22
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Lindaebrewer — We are seriously considering moving up from 19' Bambi to 23' FB. Spent a while at the dealership yesterday looking at the 23FB. Overall we felt the it would work better for us except the U-Shaped dinette. Very interested to see the pictures once your jackknife couch modification is complete. That sounds like a great solution.
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:49 PM   #23
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Very interesting discussion. No place to lounge? The table top is removable. Those corner cushions were one of the selling points for us. Table extends into the aisle. Yes, but it slides back in as well. Bed? The 23FB is likely a bit small for more than two folks, so the dinette is not needed for a bed. If it is for your travel style, a filler board easily replaces the table top and the dinette table fits behind the front bed. A topper would not be a bad addition if the cushions are problematic.

We like our dinette. It adds work space to the limited galley counter space. We find it as comfortable as a restaurant booth, which we prefer to tables and chairs. The table lowers to the right height for a sewing machine so Nancy can quilt. It is a great place to sit for morning coffee to enjoy the view through the side windows. Yes, we like our dinette.

Hope your modifications go well. Having the right layout for your lifestyle really does make a difference. Travel safe and enjoy the smiles. Pat
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Old 03-20-2016, 04:34 PM   #24
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I am so interested in your reason for hating the u-shaped dinette. Please elaborate.

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Changed out a 25' and then a 30' to lounge chairs, then back when we sold them. Much more comfortable with recliners. Pretty easy to do.
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To be honest, the U shaped dinette in any form was ruled out by us when we looked at Airstreams. For us it was uncomfortable, awkward and too much a waste of space in trade. I can see why Airstream would like it though as it makes for a more modular design that requires no engineering time and a cheaper build. Unfortunately to us it looks it.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:43 AM   #26
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Presently have our 23' FC in for reno. Taking out the U dinette & putting in jackknife type couch w table top that slides out from armrest on one end & folds open when it's time to eat. 2 storage/extra seating ottomans to provide lounging option when table is stored away. Will post photos when complete. (Also getting rid of boring brown leatherette & replacing w turquoise! Yes!)
Did you get this completed? I'm just curious how it's working for you?
If you have a picture or two that you wouldn't mind posting, I would appreciate it. We love our 23 FB, but I always like to see possible changes.
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Old 05-02-2016, 02:02 PM   #27
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Did you get this completed? I'm just curious how it's working for you?
If you have a picture or two that you wouldn't mind posting, I would appreciate it. We love our 23 FB, but I always like to see possible changes.
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Believe it or not, the 1st iteration did not work out. The couch was not deep enough. It was the same narrow seat base as on the dinette, or nearly as narrow. Anyway, it's presently being refitted w a more comfortable, couch-like seat. (It will still extend/fold out to make a bed when needed.)We will be getting AS back at the end of this week. Hopefully everything will be perfect, & I can get pictures then.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:25 AM   #28
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I hope it works out. Appreciate the reply. Looking forward to your thoughts.
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