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Old 07-20-2014, 01:29 PM   #57
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cory, comparing the Airstreams to how things function at home will lead to the largest available model, then a fifth wheel (view out the back!) or moho (view out the front!).

The basic functions are a weather-resistant shell providing a comfortable place to sleep, a place to sit comfortably in the evenings as well as eat meals, a place to prepare foods, and an indoor bath.

Most of your time awake in the Airstream will be spent reading, talking, playing games and watching your favorite tv show. It reasons then that's where the emphasis needs to be, a good living room. If you're comfortable there you won't worry much about opening a cabinet to make a sandwich.
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Old 07-20-2014, 02:45 PM   #58
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I see your point but I always over analyze important/costly and especially longterm decisions. Our view is that we are waaay past "bare necessity" camping by selecting an Airstream and therefore we are making sure we decide on the right layout/size for our current and future (as best as possible) needs correctly the first time. We don't want to regret either not having the 2ft or having to drag around an extra 2ft
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The cupboard with the utensil drawers is kinda goofy and it does irritate to have to open the door and then slide out the drawer, but I only notice when we have the two of us in the kitchen area. Would greatly prefer just a drawer, but that alone wouldn't determine my trailer choice.

Search and you'll find a good thread on how people have addressed the lounge in the 28. In retrospect, I would have special ordered the couch option, the one that reclines to a bed. We still use ours to lounge with our two kids, and are investigating adding firmer foam, as the stock foam is not great. If we have the trailer in eight more years when the kids are off to college, we will look at either the sofa or recliners. There is advantage in having that space for an extra bed, coupled with the dinette bed, so maybe not recliners.

Again, if you have the chance and are ordering, the 28 is a great option to pair with the sofa, just be prepared to pay. Otherwise, especially with just one kid, I would look at the 27 much harder.
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:51 PM   #60
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Posts 51 and 52 above link to the cabinet mods I made. Elsewhere, you can locate the project to remove the dysfunctional and uncomfortable L seat and replace it with two lounge chairs. Since May, I've been on 5 different trips of varying duration. Storage is conquered with some more shelves in the SS wardrobe cabinets....really have little use for hanging more than what'll fit in the upper CS cabinet. I think I have modified everything to meet the travel needs of two guys and two basest hounds.


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Old 07-20-2014, 07:16 PM   #62
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The cupboard with the utensil drawers is kinda goofy and it does irritate to have to open the door and then slide out the drawer, but I only notice when we have the two of us in the kitchen area. Would greatly prefer just a drawer, but that alone wouldn't determine my trailer choice.

Search and you'll find a good thread on how people have addressed the lounge in the 28. In retrospect, I would have special ordered the couch option, the one that reclines to a bed. We still use ours to lounge with our two kids, and are investigating adding firmer foam, as the stock foam is not great. If we have the trailer in eight more years when the kids are off to college, we will look at either the sofa or recliners. There is advantage in having that space for an extra bed, coupled with the dinette bed, so maybe not recliners.

Again, if you have the chance and are ordering, the 28 is a great option to pair with the sofa, just be prepared to pay. Otherwise, especially with just one kid, I would look at the 27 much harder.

Thanks Dave, do you have anymore information (or can point to a thread) that describes/shows the factory couch option in a 28?
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In the 28 isnt that converter box thingie on the floor under the shorter portion of the sofa next to the sink cabinet? If a sofa was installed where would they place that?
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Thanks Dave, do you have anymore information (or can point to a thread) that describes/shows the factory couch option in a 28?

Anyone have info on the 28 factory couch option?
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http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...r-94598-2.html

Here is the thread showing the recliner conversion, scroll down and you'll see the shelf they made to house the electronics. The 30' has a couch option, that's what I'd look at instead of the recliners, since we could use the extra sleeping space.
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Thanks Dave, as a result of following your link I had a very valuable conversation with a forum member about the sofa/lounge conversion options as well as some unrelated trailer information.
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So, after grousing for a while about the uncomfy cushions on the L Lounge, my better half sought out some foam upgrades at the local foam store. We spec'd "2040" series foam, which was the firmest foam recommended by the shop for cushions that would double as a sleeper. We also did the dinette, and for both sets we did the seat and seat back cushions.

The bill was steep: about $850 for the lounge and dinette. I had no idea how expensive foam was. The dinettes used 5" foam, whereas the lounge was a mix of 4" for the seat and 5" for the seatback.

First impressions are extremely positive. The old foam was pretty cheap, about the lowest grade you can get. Sitting on the seats, it compressed down 3-4" in certain spots. It was like sitting on the wooden boards. I would bring along some Cabelas Deluxe camp mattress pads, which we unrolled to act as a topper on the lounge and dinette when made into a bed, and which were mandatory for comfort if we lounged long enough to watch a movie.

The new foam is super sturdy, compressing down only about an inch leaving 3-4" of foam left to sit on. No need for the Cabela's cushions just to sit and lounge, though we'll probably keep them for sleeping for added comfort for the boys.

I haven't spent much time on the upgraded cushions, but this weekend will be a good test. It still doesn't solve for the upright seating position in the lounge, but I like to lounge, not sit upright, so this might be a much easier alternative than the expensive sofa upgrade. Plus, get to keep the sleeping arrangements.
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Back from a weekend trip, and the foam cushion upgrade was clearly evident. On the dinette, it made a huge difference as the foam is 5" thick. Very comfy to sit for a longer meal and not have your butt go numb.

On the lounge, an equally big difference. It didn't' transform the lounge into a sofa, but it did mean the difference between sitting enjoyably through a movie (in this case, the 2.5 hr Captain America) without squirming around and constantly shifting. Lounging is now actually enjoyable. My boys both commented that they slept better on the upgraded cushions.

So, provided you get the right firmness standard, and the right grade (this was 7yr foam, which means it would hold up to 7 years of daily use, not quite lifetime), then I can confidentially recommend this upgrade as a cost effective way to improve the comfort of the trailer.
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