Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-06-2014, 08:00 PM   #29
BAB
Rivet Master
 
BAB's Avatar

 
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro , North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,574
I have a 2012 28' Intl with the same floor plan, well, until today. I am in the process of REMOVING the horrible L shape sofa which is the most uncomfortable place to sit you can ever imagine. (You'll find others on here have done the same thing.) It will be replaced with two recliners, and I'll be putting in a cabinet on the SS for storage. Other than that, I absolutely love the 28'....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1194.jpg
Views:	110
Size:	212.5 KB
ID:	205064  
__________________

__________________
_________________
"SilverLeaf II" 2015 30' Classic
2014 RAM 2500 Laramie 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
ProPride 3P
AIR# 58452
WBCCI # 3430-Unit 21
BAB is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 08:51 PM   #30
4 Rivet Member
 
field & stream's Avatar
 
2008 23' Safari SE
2007 Base Camp
Santa Ynez , California
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 362
As we posted on a similar thread: We have a 23' with the L-lounge and agree that it is not comfortable for any length of time. But, the storage under it is useful and it does offer another place to sleep. We put a 2" memory foam topper on it and with pillows to provide lumbar support it is way better. We don't have a lot of time with this "fix", but so far so good. Not trying to talk anybody of recliners, but it is another option.
__________________

__________________
field & stream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 08:55 PM   #31
4 Rivet Member
 
2013 28' International
Bozeman , Montana
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 349
Images: 3
My wife and I must be the exception but we both like having the "L" lounge. It tends to be one of us sitting in the corner with our feet up while the other is working at the dinette. Love the storage underneath and behind it along with the spot for our Zip Dee chairs. I was concerned about splashing water on the sofa when doing dishes but with the deep sink that hasn't been a problem either.
__________________
HeadWest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 10:01 PM   #32
4 Rivet Member
 
time2play's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Kent , Washington
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 343
I found the L-shaped sofa to be extremely uncomfortably. And so did my husband. After 5 minutes on the sofa, we found ourselves sliding down and when we tried to get up, our backs would be aching. We tried pillows, ottomans, cushions, etc. Nothing worked.

My husband and I like watching movies at night. We light settling in with a blanket and a bowl of popcorn, and getting comfortable. Unfortunately, we found we just couldn't do that in our 28' Flying Cloud.

With that said, I loved everything else about the 28' Flying Cloud.
__________________
Yolanda (and Phil)
2013 30' Classic Limited
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD
ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Control Hitch
WBCCI #7878
time2play is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 02:20 AM   #33
4 Rivet Member
 
Luigi123's Avatar
 
2018 30' International
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Los alamos , New Mexico
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 321
We chose the recliners for the 30ft, only wanted to buy one AS and not trade up in the future. Started with the 25/27/28 after reading visiting several dealerships ordered the 30.
__________________
Luigi123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 02:24 AM   #34
4 Rivet Member
 
Luigi123's Avatar
 
2018 30' International
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Los alamos , New Mexico
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 321
Have a question regarding size of AS and heating in the cool or cold season? Just how warm can the interior get to when it is dam cold outside? I once read there is usually only a 20 degree variance. As you can tell have experience cold weather yet with the new AS.
__________________
Luigi123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 09:35 AM   #35
3 Rivet Member
 
rperrym's Avatar
 
2017 28' Tommy Bahama
2015 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Hot Springs Village , Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 177
I would be happy to measure our L-shaped lounge for the previous poster, but I am not sure where to begin and end the measurements.
Could you help with a different description of what you would like measured?

Rick
__________________
rperrym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 10:21 AM   #36
Rivet Master
 
rodsterinfl's Avatar

 
2006 25' Safari
Fort Myers , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,429
Images: 8
2013 28' Flying Cloud

Great Rick

I would need the measure across as all the models that are wide bodied should be the same. I am interested in the side extension measure. How far from the front window wall to the end of the side extension? I have a Safari 25 and may be able to fit the lounge in place of the sofa. Anyone selling? I would have to reverse the side extension though to the right side IF that can be done. I am not sure how it breaks down- looks modular .
__________________
WBCCI 8653/AIR 60240
2017 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecobeast Gen 2 3.55 Platinum
rodsterinfl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 12:35 PM   #37
Moderator
 
DKB_SATX's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
1976 Argosy 28
Alamo Heights , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,401
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigi123 View Post
Have a question regarding size of AS and heating in the cool or cold season? Just how warm can the interior get to when it is dam cold outside? I once read there is usually only a 20 degree variance. As you can tell have experience cold weather yet with the new AS.
The oft-repeated 20-degree variance is, I think, a slightly erroneous interpretation of how the AC works. (When running right, you should be able to get around a 20-degree drop between intake and output on the AC, not between outside and inside... how much cooler you can make it than the outside temperature is also a factor of the heat load on the skin and through the windows, humidity, etc.)

The furnace is rated for more BTUs of heating than the AC is for cooling. In my 24' trailer I've had it a comfy 72 degrees when it's below 30 degrees outside, and that's with an ancient 22k BTU furnace. In the kind of serious cold you can experience in NM, you might reach a point at which the furnace can't keep 65-70 inside, but it's going to be way more than 20 degrees above the outside temp.
__________________
— David

Zero Gravitas — 2017 Flying Cloud 26U | Il Progetto — 1976 Argosy 28 Center Bath | WBCCI# 15566

He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. — Sir Winston Churchill
DKB_SATX is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 12:55 PM   #38
Rivet Master
 
rodsterinfl's Avatar

 
2006 25' Safari
Fort Myers , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,429
Images: 8
Correct, The 20-25 degree variance is usually referenced as intake air vs output air. Unfortunately with AC it is related to ambient temp as room temperature relates to outside temp relatively where temps can have a greater difference but still impact overall performance. Indoor humidity impacts ac performance. Too powerful BTU and the room will be cool but damp.
__________________
WBCCI 8653/AIR 60240
2017 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecobeast Gen 2 3.55 Platinum
rodsterinfl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 02:07 PM   #39
Rivet Master
 
RamblinManGa's Avatar

 
2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Scottsdale , Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 840
Images: 2
Hi from AZ. . . We also upgraded recently from a '05 Safari 25 w/twin beds to a '10 FC 28. She likes the dinette, a shower you can actually fit in, and the queen bed. We tow it with a max tow Ecoboost with out problems. So far, we love it. Regards, Craig....p.s. Rodster, didn't exactly understand the question, sorry.
__________________
WBCCI 2851,4CU
RamblinManGa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 02:20 PM   #40
2 Rivet Member
 
Severna Park , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 90
We have an '09 28' Flying Cloud. We wanted something that a gas engine 3/4 ton truck could very comfortably tow. Mission accomplished.

As for the L-shaped lounge, my wife and I have our "spots" and works fine. I would rather have recliners; but, would not like to give up the handy storage under and behind the lounge. Like everything else on these trailers, everything is a compromise.

Couldn't be happier with it overall. Our personal conclusion is that it is as "big as we want to go".
__________________
sailorii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 04:33 PM   #41
Rivet Master
 
Alphonse's Avatar

 
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Lower Alabama , USA
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 649
We have a 2010 28'FC. The storage it offers is excellent and we appreciate having that. I also appreciate having the sleeping capacity in that my two adult sons and I use the trailer to go to races. We like all having our own bed so we can get some rest. We also use the dinette for meals since we go in the early spring and it can be cool.

So we are content with our layout and would not be willing to give up the L couch or the dinette. However, the cushions are simply not of the quality level we want. By the way, that can be said for the majority of factory stuff from what I've seen. We are going to change the cushion material to a better grade material, perhaps add a bit to the thickness (1/2 or 1") and hope for something a bit more firm. Obviously thicker foam would require new upholstery. We do not like the covering on the back of the dinette anyway. The upholstery would be a fun project and my wife can sew really well, although she hasn't done very much in recent years. Of course an alternative is to get a pro to do it and that may be an option but I doubt that my wife will be willing to go that route. I have been studying sewing machines that have the capacity to sew leather since I have always wanted to do that anyway. BTW, I am not wanting leather in the Twinkie.
__________________
Alan
"If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you never tried before!"

Air #64439
Southeastern Camping Unit WBCCI #5033
TAC AL-8
2017 Canopenian
Alphonse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 05:37 PM   #42
Rivet Master
 
JFScheck's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Rockville , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,474
Images: 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony View Post
The Classic 30 has a pocket door on each end of the bathroom...
Yea - had my 25FB before and my current 27FB after - I really, really, really like have a door to the bathroom vice having to look at the toilet from the bedroom or having it blocked off from one end or the other....
__________________

__________________
John "JFScheck" Scheck
2015 Roadtrek CS Adventurous XL
2015 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 XL Chassis with Mercedes BlueTec V6 Diesel
**I Love U.S.A.**
JFScheck is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flying Cloud 25FB Recliner, Drapes, and Folding Table Luckyducks Upholstery, Blinds, Walls & Interior Finishes 90 09-17-2016 10:29 AM
Flying high on a Cloud from 1958 MontanaAIR 1956 - 1959 Flying Cloud 110 01-23-2012 02:13 PM
25FB Flying Cloud danlehosky Dollars & Cents 5 10-27-2011 11:10 PM
Flying Cloud :: 1958 Airstream Flying Cloud Cloud58 Airstream Registry Discussions 0 08-19-2011 09:32 AM
New member w/new Flying Cloud & TV raguemoe Member Introductions 5 04-29-2011 04:45 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.