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rperrym · 09-10-2013, 05:18 PM

I should have said Pocket Door, but couldn't remember what they are called.
Thanks,
Rick

sinjin · 09-10-2013, 06:50 PM

We have a 2009 28' and love it. Spent hundreds of nights in it so far. The L-couch is incredibly uncomfortable so we took it out and put in a double recliner which we love. I have pics of it somewhere on this board. We also replaced the dinette, which we never used, with ikea cabinets and a fold out breakfast bar. So we actually have a sleeps two camper now

We have a tent for folks who want to stay with us.

One of the things I like about the 28' is the split bath with the bedroom in the back. If you open the bathroom door to about 90 degrees you end up with a very nice dressing room between the bedroom and the bath/shower area. We do have those accordion curtains but never use them.

We camp in a lot of places where you back in and you have forest in the back. From our recliners in the front we can see out thru the back to the scenery. We like to keep our back window open and wake up to the wilderness!

We also like the outside back storage cabinet that is easily accessible without the propane tanks in the way. YMMV!

Lara Me · 09-11-2013, 12:23 AM

time2play, was yours the one you traded in and you recently showed me at the dealer when you were picking up your Classic? If so, thanks for the feedback. We came close to buying it before opting for a 2014 28.

We must have spent a few hours going back and forth between the 30 and 28. We hated the u-shape dinette and bunk floorplan of the 30 they had as it was all bedroom, much as my boys loved the bunks. We liked the lounge config. Sofa was really comfy too in the 30, but could only sit 3 of us. Yes, the leather was slippery, and the lounge needs to be pulled out and with extra back pillows to be fully comfy. Maybe some upgraded foam in the cushions too, a relatively cheap fix.

Only thing I think I miss about not going with the 30 is the extra storage, counter space, and bathroom. Hitch weight is a non-issue as we opted for a Ram 2500 diesel tow rig.

Andrew T · 09-11-2013, 06:39 AM

When you load the 28' quite a bit of weight goes behind the wheels in the rear storage compartment and closets. In a front bedroom there is very little storage behind the wheels. Once loaded for travel the tounge weight of the 28 is oten a little less than the 27 FB.

Andrew T

time2play · 09-11-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lara Me

time2play, was yours the one you traded in and you recently showed me at the dealer when you were picking up your Classic? If so, thanks for the feedback. We came close to buying it before opting for a 2014 28.

We must have spent a few hours going back and forth between the 30 and 28. We hated the u-shape dinette and bunk floorplan of the 30 they had as it was all bedroom, much as my boys loved the bunks. We liked the lounge config. Sofa was really comfy too in the 30, but could only sit 3 of us. Yes, the leather was slippery, and the lounge needs to be pulled out and with extra back pillows to be fully comfy. Maybe some upgraded foam in the cushions too, a relatively cheap fix.

Only thing I think I miss about not going with the 30 is the extra storage, counter space, and bathroom. Hitch weight is a non-issue as we opted for a Ram 2500 diesel tow rig.

Lara Me--congratulations on your 2014 28' purchase! I heard you almost purchased our trade-in, but opted for a new one. As I said, we really did like the 28' floorplan. It was perfect for us in all ways, except for the sofa.

Now that we have the 30' Classic, we love the extra room and storage. In the long run, it was just a better choice for us.

**DKB_SATX** · 09-11-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by davcarv

Wow, and the classic 30 has a GVWR of 10000 pounds, ... 200 over the 9800 pound towing capacity of the echo boost with a tow package. Very encouraging.

The Ecoboost with Max Tow has towing capacity up to 11,300 lb depending on configuration.

Snaken49 · 09-23-2013, 08:11 AM

We upgraded from a 2008 25' FB Safari to a 2010 28' Flying Cloud mainly due to the sideways bed in the Safari and the rear dinette arrangement.

We looked at the 30' but opted out due to price, layout and added weight. The 28' FC is 3 years old and has been terrific!

We did upgrade the size of the television monitor and remount it so it could be easily viewed and controlled from the bedroom. As for the sink next to the couch? Well you just need to be careful and not splash water around!

Details and pics of monitor upgrade on request.

rodsterinfl · 02-06-2014, 04:48 PM

I have a question to those who own a current style floor plan 28'. I am interested in getting an L lounge. Can someone measure side portion from where it comes from the edge of the front portion to the side end? In other words, I am trying to figure out how far the side portion measures beyond the actual edge of the front sofa edge to see if there is room in my camper. I would have to reverse the side of the L but if it does not extend too far, and is reverse able, I might be able to buy one rather than have a custom one made. Here is my question another way in case it all sounds confusing, Beyond the standard straight part of the front sofa section, how far out does the side extension measure?

Time-to play, was the L sofa uncomfortable? I am in a quandary. I have the Flexsteel sofa that folds to make a twin bed, provide under storage and seat three. It does all three functions OK but the seat comfort is the weak spot. I need something else that does all three.

BAB · 02-06-2014, 07:00 PM

I have a 2012 28' Intl with the same floor plan, well, until today. I am in the process of REMOVING the horrible L shape sofa which is the most uncomfortable place to sit you can ever imagine. (You'll find others on here have done the same thing.) It will be replaced with two recliners, and I'll be putting in a cabinet on the SS for storage. Other than that, I absolutely love the 28'....

field & stream · 02-06-2014, 07:51 PM

As we posted on a similar thread: We have a 23' with the L-lounge and agree that it is not comfortable for any length of time. But, the storage under it is useful and it does offer another place to sleep. We put a 2" memory foam topper on it and with pillows to provide lumbar support it is way better. We don't have a lot of time with this "fix", but so far so good. Not trying to talk anybody of recliners, but it is another option.

HeadWest · 02-06-2014, 07:55 PM

My wife and I must be the exception but we both like having the "L" lounge. It tends to be one of us sitting in the corner with our feet up while the other is working at the dinette. Love the storage underneath and behind it along with the spot for our Zip Dee chairs. I was concerned about splashing water on the sofa when doing dishes but with the deep sink that hasn't been a problem either.

time2play · 02-06-2014, 09:01 PM

I found the L-shaped sofa to be extremely uncomfortably. And so did my husband. After 5 minutes on the sofa, we found ourselves sliding down and when we tried to get up, our backs would be aching. We tried pillows, ottomans, cushions, etc. Nothing worked.

My husband and I like watching movies at night. We light settling in with a blanket and a bowl of popcorn, and getting comfortable. Unfortunately, we found we just couldn't do that in our 28' Flying Cloud.

With that said, I loved everything else about the 28' Flying Cloud.

Luigi123 · 02-07-2014, 01:20 AM

We chose the recliners for the 30ft, only wanted to buy one AS and not trade up in the future. Started with the 25/27/28 after reading visiting several dealerships ordered the 30.

Luigi123 · 02-07-2014, 01:24 AM

Have a question regarding size of AS and heating in the cool or cold season? Just how warm can the interior get to when it is dam cold outside? I once read there is usually only a 20 degree variance. As you can tell have experience cold weather yet with the new AS.

rperrym · 02-07-2014, 08:35 AM

I would be happy to measure our L-shaped lounge for the previous poster, but I am not sure where to begin and end the measurements.
Could you help with a different description of what you would like measured?

Rick

rodsterinfl · 02-07-2014, 09:21 AM

Great Rick

I would need the measure across as all the models that are wide bodied should be the same. I am interested in the side extension measure. How far from the front window wall to the end of the side extension? I have a Safari 25 and may be able to fit the lounge in place of the sofa. Anyone selling? I would have to reverse the side extension though to the right side IF that can be done. I am not sure how it breaks down- looks modular .

**DKB_SATX** · 02-07-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi123

Have a question regarding size of AS and heating in the cool or cold season? Just how warm can the interior get to when it is dam cold outside? I once read there is usually only a 20 degree variance. As you can tell have experience cold weather yet with the new AS.

The oft-repeated 20-degree variance is, I think, a slightly erroneous interpretation of how the AC works. (When running right, you should be able to get around a 20-degree drop between intake and output on the AC, not between outside and inside... how much cooler you can make it than the outside temperature is also a factor of the heat load on the skin and through the windows, humidity, etc.)

The furnace is rated for more BTUs of heating than the AC is for cooling. In my 24' trailer I've had it a comfy 72 degrees when it's below 30 degrees outside, and that's with an ancient 22k BTU furnace. In the kind of serious cold you can experience in NM, you might reach a point at which the furnace can't keep 65-70 inside, but it's going to be way more than 20 degrees above the outside temp.

rodsterinfl · 02-07-2014, 11:55 AM

Correct, The 20-25 degree variance is usually referenced as intake air vs output air. Unfortunately with AC it is related to ambient temp as room temperature relates to outside temp relatively where temps can have a greater difference but still impact overall performance. Indoor humidity impacts ac performance. Too powerful BTU and the room will be cool but damp.

RamblinManGa · 02-07-2014, 01:07 PM

Hi from AZ. . . We also upgraded recently from a '05 Safari 25 w/twin beds to a '10 FC 28. She likes the dinette, a shower you can actually fit in, and the queen bed. We tow it with a max tow Ecoboost with out problems. So far, we love it. Regards, Craig....p.s. Rodster, didn't exactly understand the question, sorry.

sailorii · 02-07-2014, 01:20 PM

We have an '09 28' Flying Cloud. We wanted something that a gas engine 3/4 ton truck could very comfortably tow. Mission accomplished.

As for the L-shaped lounge, my wife and I have our "spots" and works fine. I would rather have recliners; but, would not like to give up the handy storage under and behind the lounge. Like everything else on these trailers, everything is a compromise.

Couldn't be happier with it overall. Our personal conclusion is that it is as "big as we want to go".