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Old 03-23-2013, 10:19 AM   #1
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2013/2014 23' Flying Cloud

We are getting ready to purchase/order a 2013/2014 23' Flying Cloud. We are planning to have the dealer make some modifications. We are planning to replace the one door 5 cubic foot two way refrigerator and microwave with a 2 door three way 6-7 cubic foot refrigerator. We are also replacing the gas oven with a convection microwave. We have never used the oven in our 2007 Safari 23' SE LS which is pending sale next week. We are also having a switch installed that can turn off the refrigerator fan.

Depending what Airstream Adventures Northwest has in stock we may have to order one. Orders for the 2014 models are being taken now. A major change from 2013 to 2014 is the availability of a power awning, which is of no interest to us.

We are also having the dealer install solar panels. We may go for either 150 or 200 watts depending on how many and what sized panels panels can be installed on the roof.

Does anyone have any other suggestions or see any problems with our plans?
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Hi -- I like your ideas, and offer the possibility of having the folding counter extension installed too. Here is a link to a Forums discussion of it: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...on-100713.html
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:36 AM   #3
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Any other word on changes to the from 2013 to '14 that you have heard about? Our 28' International is to be built mid April, will still be '13. Just wondering what else we might be missing besides the power awning which sounds like a solution looking for a problem.
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Just curious how long such a big frig would run on 12 volt, assuming it is a 3-way unit.

Which floorplan are you getting?

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Old 03-23-2013, 12:11 PM   #5
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Hi -- I like your ideas, and offer the possibility of having the folding counter extension installed too. Here is a link to a Forums discussion of it: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...on-100713.html
Thanks for the suggestion. We will think about it.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:13 PM   #6
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Any other word on changes to the from 2013 to '14 that you have heard about? Our 28' International is to be built mid April, will still be '13. Just wondering what else we might be missing besides the power awning which sounds like a solution looking for a problem.
Our dealer thought that the changes would be minor. He did mention that the 23' would be equipped with two HTDVs. That is not of interest to us as we don't want any TV. He also mentioned that prices would be increasing 2-4%.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:15 PM   #7
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Just curious how long such a big frig would run on 12 volt, assuming it is a 3-way unit.

Which floorplan are you getting?

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We are getting the rear corner bed model. We prefer this model to the FB one because it offers a seating area and large table. It should be perfect for us.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:20 PM   #8
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Just curious how long such a big frig would run on 12 volt, assuming it is a 3-way unit.

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We prefer a 3 way model because we can leave the propane off for safety reasons while we are driving and still cool the refrigerator. As long as we are driving the 12V batteries would stay charged. I don't know how long the batteries would last cooling the refrigerator if not being recharged.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:42 PM   #9
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Is there a reason you are going to shut off the Refridgerator fan other than noise? I am thinking that rather than just shut it off you might be better advised to just replace the fan with a quiet one. Our fan is nothing but a $5 computer fan and for less than $35 you can purchase fans that are silent. Same cfm ratings, similar power consumption but really really quiet.
This way you can have the condenser cooling you need for efficient fridge operation.
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Is there a reason you are going to shut off the Refridgerator fan other than noise? I am thinking that rather than just shut it off you might be better advised to just replace the fan with a quiet one. Our fan is nothing but a $5 computer fan and for less than $35 you can purchase fans that are silent. Same cfm ratings, similar power consumption but really really quiet.
This way you can have the condenser cooling you need for efficient fridge operation.
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Our 2007 23' Safari fan made a racket. There was a thread at the time with recommendations of which computer fan to replace it with, which I did. I may also replace the fan in our new trailer. The switch will just give us another option. We camp in winter quite often and the fan is not necessary in those conditions.
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We prefer a 3 way model because we can leave the propane off for safety reasons while we are driving and still cool the refrigerator. As long as we are driving the 12V batteries would stay charged. I don't know how long the batteries would last cooling the refrigerator if not being recharged.
Didn't think of that advantage. Learn something new everyday!

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Our dealer thought that the changes would be minor. He did mention that the 23' would be equipped with two HTDVs. That is not of interest to us as we don't want any TV. He also mentioned that prices would be increasing 2-4%.
I spoke to the dealer today and he told me that prices are going up 4% for 2014 but they do not have order sheets for the 2014 Airstreams yet.
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If may be wise to consider the 25' FC rear bed model. It is arranged much like the 23', but everything is more spacious, including holding tanks but still a compact trailer. Larger wheels and brakes, NevrLube bearings. Gas oven and conv/micro option. The weight difference is barely enough to be noticeable when towing.

The factory solar and inverter options are nicely integrated during assembly. The awning package is useful to control sun and inside temperatures. We found these options useful.

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Old 03-24-2013, 01:32 AM   #14
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If may be wise to consider the 25' FC rear bed model. It is arranged much like the 23', but everything is more spacious, including holding tanks but still a compact trailer. Larger wheels and brakes, NevrLube bearings. Gas oven and conv/micro option. The weight difference is barely enough to be noticeable when towing.

The factory solar and inverter options are nicely integrated during assembly. The awning package is useful to control sun and inside temperatures. We found these options useful.

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The 25' models have a GVWR of around 7300 lb and a tongue weight of 830 lb (which may exceed 1000 lb with cargo, propane and batteries). They are also almost 3 feet longer and 6" wider. These weights exceed the capabilities of our medium sized SUV. We are perfectly happy with the size of our current 23' Safari SE. We have no desire to go larger and heavier.
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