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Old 09-18-2016, 08:06 AM   #1261
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Just to try to get this in one place so everybody else does not have to pull their hair out...
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WHEELS AND TIRES AND AND BALANCERS FOR A 16 inch conversion:
(Also Bearings for the 20 footer 12” wheel drum)

Tires and wheels for 16” conversion

Purchased From: PERFORMANCE PLUS TIRE

These seem to be the most popular ones. You need 16X6 - 6 bolt 6x5.5 bolt spacing

T03 BLACK MACHINED RIM-SENDEL TRAILER 16x6 #T03-66655BM
(without the black it is # T03-66655T)


MICHELIN TIRES - LTX M/S 2 LT225/75R16 115/112R #05681

(I requested metal valvestems, they said they don’t do that, but sent them on it anyway!)

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Chrome Universal Valvestems #161919264348 Not needed

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CENTRAMATICS WHEEL

Balancer # 300-356 Call in order specify 6 bolt for 20’ Airstream with 12" drums 6x5.5 bolt pattern

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Bearings and seals for the 20 foot Airstream with 12” drums (Mine is a 2015)

Seal

Dichtomatik Part # 22333TA-H
DT Components # 472920 (same for Precision Seals and Bearings and Federal Mogul)
National # 412920
SKF # 22532


Bearings - Valvoline Crimson Grease recommended by Airstream

Outer

Bearing - Airstream # 450658, Industry # LM67048
Race - Airstream # 680365, Industry # LM67010

Inner

Bearing - Airstream # 450659, Industry # 25580
Race - Airstream # 680364, Industry # 25520

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Old 09-18-2016, 04:08 PM   #1262
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Thanks for posting renderit
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:50 PM   #1263
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[QUOTE=renderit;1852602]Just to try to get this in one place so everybody else does not have to pull their hair out...]


renderit, thanks for sharing, much appreciated I'll note the '15 vintage and potential differences.

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Old 09-18-2016, 10:01 PM   #1264
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drawer lock and propane support tray screws (lack thereof)

The day before my accident (6-27) I worked on the propane tank tray and the rev-a-lock on the pot/pan drawer. I’m just now getting to the post.

Re: post 1205 http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...127845-87.html once I had it in hand with the magnet opener I realized who reverse polarity is when kept it in the lock position. Originally I was hesitant as I suspected a spring release which may eventually fail and then I’d be unable to open the drawer. Note the install however is limited to certain drawer designs/locations. In the 20 footer, that means the pot/pan drawer below the oven, maybe the vertical door with the sliders (I had already used the gate latch here) and possibly the top of the 3 vertically stacked drawers…all in the kitchen. I didn’t see a need for a lock on the doors below the kit sink but suspect it would work there. I suspect that it would also work in the FWD closet/drawers and maybe the bath vanity door.


It’s a pretty slick lock system and I’d recommend it. My apologies for the marginal video & pics.

The same day I also jumped on the adjustment of the propane tank platform. I few weeks before I had pulled the tanks to take a look. I had intended to pull it off completely but after the first one came off with a very slight nudge of the box wrench, I left the others for another day when I had different tools and replacement self-tapping screws on hand.

Pic 8818 CS, the rust can be clearly seen on the screw head and the screw in the frame. The screw to the right was intact and solid. Pic 8817 DS the left screw was missing and never tapped in the frame. The screw to the right the rust can be clearly seen on the screw head and present but harder to see due to shadow, on the screw in the frame. Not sure why there is evidence in the paint of the past presence of a screw head.

1 of 4 screws intact…certainly a minor league batting average.
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Old 09-19-2016, 04:33 AM   #1265
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Thanks Bob for all the details, including the marginal attachment of the propane tank base. Yikes . . . Hope your recovery is going well.

Thank you also renderit for gathering all the wheel/tire data in one post.

Hoping to get OTRA again soon.

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Old 09-19-2016, 06:39 AM   #1266
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I also want to send KUDOS to Phoenix who helped me corral all the info above. I wish I could edit it to add:

Tire Pressure on Michelin LTX M/S 2 LT225/75R16 115/112R to be 80psi. That is the load capacity and as Phoenix pointed out to me the diff between 80 and 72 or 75 on ride is very negligible. Get the full load bearing capacity at 80!
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:36 AM   #1267
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Here it is all in one post. Thanks again renderit and Phoenix.

[renderit's wheel/tire info]
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20 foot Airstream:

WHEELS AND TIRES AND AND BALANCERS FOR A 16 inch conversion:
(Also Bearings for the 20 footer 12” wheel drum)

Tires and wheels for 16” conversion

Purchased From: PERFORMANCE PLUS TIRE

These seem to be the most popular ones. You need 16X6 - 6 bolt 6x5.5 bolt spacing

T03 BLACK MACHINED RIM-SENDEL TRAILER 16x6 #T03-66655BM
(without the black it is # T03-66655T)


MICHELIN TIRES - LTX M/S 2 LT225/75R16 115/112R #05681

(I requested metal valvestems, they said they don’t do that, but sent them on it anyway!)

__________________________________________________ _____

EBAY

Chrome Universal Valvestems #161919264348 Not needed

__________________________________________________ _____
CENTRAMATICS WHEEL

Balancer # 300-356 Call in order specify 6 bolt for 20’ Airstream with 12" drums 6x5.5 bolt pattern

__________________________________________________ _____

Bearings and seals for the 20 foot Airstream with 12” drums (Mine is a 2015)

Seal

Dichtomatik Part # 22333TA-H
DT Components # 472920 (same for Precision Seals and Bearings and Federal Mogul)
National # 412920
SKF # 22532


Bearings - Valvoline Crimson Grease recommended by Airstream

Outer

Bearing - Airstream # 450658, Industry # LM67048
Race - Airstream # 680365, Industry # LM67010

Inner

Bearing - Airstream # 450659, Industry # 25580
Race - Airstream # 680364, Industry # 25520


Tire Pressure on Michelin LTX M/S 2 LT225/75R16 115/112R to be 80psi. That is the load capacity and as Phoenix pointed out to me the diff between 80 and 72 or 75 on ride is very negligible. Get the full load bearing capacity at 80!
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:35 AM   #1268
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Here it is all in one post. Thanks again renderit and Phoenix.

[renderit's wheel/tire info]

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Thanks Peter, renderit and Phoenix and the research and consolidtion.

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Old 09-21-2016, 08:37 PM   #1269
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I was told late last week that because they couldn't get the 16" wheels it would be mid October before I could get my Airstream back, I was not happy. So yesterday I got the word they have found the 16" wheels and I will be able to pick up the trailer next week. It has been there three weeks now so I am feeling better, just not real happy.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:18 AM   #1270
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That's good news that you will get it back next week!

It's been a rough start for you, but I am glad that you are safe and that the dealer is making amends and getting things moving along. The 20 footers are really nice units and I hope you have many happy times ahead. Thanks for keeping us all updated. Please post pictures when you get it back.
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:32 AM   #1271
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Well said, Steve.

idahodian, hopefully you can resume your travels with a safer trailer now. Your blow out has been a real wake up call for us, as we had hoped to wait on new tires for a while.

The 20' Flying Cloud is a remarkable unit, and we once again enjoyed another three nights at Hither Hills State Park this week. There was a 25' there too, and as I looked her over from a distance, and in the line for the sewer dump, I was reassured that we had downsized from our old 25'. The FC20 is the right tool for the job right now for us.

Sorry you have had to endure this hiccup!

Happy Trails!

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PS photos at Post #1610 here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...oor-24522.html
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:30 AM   #1272
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The 20' Flying Cloud is a remarkable unit, and we once again enjoyed another three nights at Hither Hills State Park this week. There was a 25' there too, and as I looked her over from a distance, and in the line for the sewer dump, I was reassured that we had downsized from our old 25'. The FC20 is the right tool for the job right now for us.
Was your old 25' a queen bed? We love the layout of the FC20 but are leaning towards a 23FB for the larger bed.
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:19 AM   #1273
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Good morning Biker, and welcome to the forum!

The old 25' had a rear corner bed which was a custom AS Full-ish mattress which fit into the rounded rear corner. Not as big as a Queen. It worked great, as the person against the wall could not fall out of bed, so the Full seemed larger.

Yes, the larger bed of the 23' also appealed to us, but the galley of the 20' was the clincher. With its rear corner location with two sinks, plenty of counter space left and right of the cooktop, and decent sized fridge/freezer, the galley is superior to most other models smaller than 25' in our opinion. Plus a real propane oven is part of the scheme, not a microwave. The bountiful upper cabinets (3 total in this corner) make meal prep really easy. The cook does not have to yield to other traffic in the trailer.

Those round sinks which stick out in the middle of many other models seem crazy to us! If you want a "bar" area -- fine -- but for serious cooking on the road, especially in cooler weather, forget about it!

[galley rant over] -- In hot weather the two of us make up the dinette bed every night. This is an acceptable compromise, in the big picture, but a larger front bed for two would be nice!

Have you looked at the various models in person? Colonial in NJ is not too far from you, and Patrick is great to deal with. His walk-through videos are very helpful as well.

Good luck with your search.

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Thanks for your response Peter. I went to the Hershey RV show and got to spend some time in a few different models but unfortunately they (Colonial) didn't bring a 20 for display. I've been in touch with Patrick and I'm very familiar with his videos. He said things will be a bit crazy the week following the show so I'll wait a little while before I make the trip out there.
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