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Old 04-20-2015, 06:31 AM   #113
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I got a queen topper from Walmart and cut it to size. Very easy to do.

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Ok 20 footers , question on bedding .what size memory foam pad fits on the mattress? We could go queen and cut it down or do we stretch a twin extra long ? Looking for the most secure fit . Brands or retailers you recomend ? Thanks twentys !




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Old 04-26-2015, 08:58 AM   #114
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FCloud9 - Wow! You guys really went all in! Very cool. Thanks for sharing your trip details.
In two weeks, we head out on our first "big" adventure of touring for 10 days in MD to Assateague then on to Colonial Williamsburg, Charlottesville VA to Monicello then up to DC for a few days.
We have been waiting all winter to get out and travel!
Because we bought our trailer late in the season last year, we were only able to get in 3 weekends of camping with it. I am hopeful this year we can really get out a ton of times.
We are super excited to hit the road!
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Old 04-26-2015, 09:38 AM   #115
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Oh and yes, the floor plan is also available in the Safari 2008 and earlier. I wonder if that could be folded into this forum without prejudice.

On page one I found this... and then jumped ahead about 8 pages and found talk of Marathon Tires, ceramic toilets and everything but the floor plan... so I figured I would comment on this.

I bought a 2004 22 foot Safari (pre-owned) because I didn't think the new ones were worth what they were selling for. Now my dealer wants to buy mine back since he can sell it for even more! So much for my assessment of price.

At any rate, this 22 is double axle and has rock guards, bumper, porch light and all the things a Flying Cloud has and the 22 Sport became a single axle entry model. The thing that sold me on the 22 Safari was the floor plan. Even today I would have to go to a 27 foot trailer to find a kitchen that feels as spacious. It looks like the 23 refrigerator access is impaired by the table when it is in the out position so the 22 is better in the sense the refrigerator is in a different position and is accessible while eating.

I look at the new ones but don't find the same kitchen space utility, so I have stayed happy with my 22 Safari floor plan and queen bed. A PO turned the closet door around and it is super! I don't know why AS didn't do it?
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Old 04-26-2015, 09:57 AM   #116
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While we were having maintenance done at the dealer we looked at new ones. We have been spending up to 5 months in our 20,and think another few feet would help.
We have always thought a 25 twin would be next. But now the 27 would be it .But the problem would be new trailer and Tow vehicle. Don't think that's possible. So we go home and prep our "20" for the next trip.
Now if it would get "warm" so i could wash/wax it.
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Old 04-26-2015, 03:10 PM   #117
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FCloud9 - Wow! You guys really went all in! Very cool. Thanks for sharing your trip details.

In two weeks, we head out on our first "big" adventure of touring for 10 days in MD to Assateague then on to Colonial Williamsburg, Charlottesville VA to Monicello then up to DC for a few days.

We have been waiting all winter to get out and travel!

Because we bought our trailer late in the season last year, we were only able to get in 3 weekends of camping with it. I am hopeful this year we can really get out a ton of times.

We are super excited to hit the road!

Hi there Wild Child,
Your first big adventure sounds terrific! This time of year should be perfect for Williamsburg, DC and beach destinations. Expect you will get to know your Flying Cloud during your 10 day adventure. Be sure to share a follow up report about your trip. Seems east coast campgrounds and destinations are not so frequently reported here on the forums. We all enjoy hearing more about great destinations.

We are busy working on little projects at home but I cannot wait to pack up and go again.
Mr. FCloud9 is hoping to get some fly fishing in northern PA this spring, few beach trips, and maybe Adirondacks, White Mtns. and coastal Maine.

We are patiently waiting for parts to arrive from the mothership to complete the propane safety recall. Parts should be in any day soon....with the temps improving here each week....I'm eager to take off!!
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:39 AM   #118
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Looking at buying one of these units. Are they supposed to have ducted air on the 2015? This one does not.

Also, can somebody rattle off the specs on the Sendel wheels and Mich tires or point me to where to get them for one of these units?
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:21 PM   #119
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My guess is that ducted air is not necessary in a 20 foot trailer. There may be some advantages with ducted air but I would imagine the cost would outweigh the benefits in such a small trailer.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:42 AM   #120
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We joined you last Saturday. 2015 Flying Loud 20 is now in our driveway.

Going around getting on shelf liners, straightening "drunken leveling" from the factory and adding our glitter to this beast. I am really impressed with the next level hardware in this over our Sport. I just wish they took a little better care in the fit and finish on edges and stuff. But overall we are pretty happy with this. It is the floorplan we always wanted.

A few questions:

1) We have a dig on a wood corner. Anybody know of matching stain/pickeling or whatever matches this stuff?
2) What do y'all do for toilet paper holders?
3) Who the he-doubletoothpicks needs 30 keyhooks?
4) Anybody put in a second TV? Can you screw it in anywhere on the divider?
5) What possessed them to mount the magazine holder in my face? I am thinking about using the other end for my head. Maybe I'm supposed to, and just lay that way to read?

Show me some clevernesses here folks! Pictures earn extra points! Can I use these tires and rims at least for 1 season?
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:49 AM   #121
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Ducted air is only on 25' and longer.
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:19 AM   #122
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We joined you last Saturday. 2015 Flying Loud 20 is now in our driveway.

Going around getting on shelf liners, straightening "drunken leveling" from the factory and adding our glitter to this beast. I am really impressed with the next level hardware in this over our Sport. I just wish they took a little better care in the fit and finish on edges and stuff. But overall we are pretty happy with this. It is the floorplan we always wanted.

A few questions:

1) We have a dig on a wood corner. Anybody know of matching stain/pickeling or whatever matches this stuff?
2) What do y'all do for toilet paper holders?
3) Who the he-doubletoothpicks needs 30 keyhooks?
4) Anybody put in a second TV? Can you screw it in anywhere on the divider?
5) What possessed them to mount the magazine holder in my face? I am thinking about using the other end for my head. Maybe I'm supposed to, and just lay that way to read?

Show me some clevernesses here folks! Pictures earn extra points! Can I use these tires and rims at least for 1 season?
It took me a long time to remove all of the CYA warning stickers on my 20'. I stuck the important ones on the inside of the little pull out storage thing by the door, on the right near the floor. The important ones were the weights, tire specs etc, not the eco stickers telling you how green they are.

Is the dig from the factory? If so, it is a warrantee issue for them to solve, if you did it, I don't have a solution.

The factory TP holder is inside the lower cabinet under the sink. Useless location as you can't open the cabinet while you are on the toilet. I put an Ikea TP holder, mounted with double sticky tape, on the cabinet next to the toilet. The roll slips on and off vertically and can be easily removed when you are actually using the toilet.

I use the key hooks for a lot of things and am glad to have each and every one of them. You may find that to be true with use.

No idea about a second TV. I don't use the first one.

My magazine rack is mounted high enough so it is not in my face and works out just fine. Not sure where yours is of course.

I used the original tires and rims for one season, then went to 16" LTX's.

I removed the silly sliding divider between the bed and the dinette. There is no privacy in a 20' trailer in any event and the thing takes up space and is in the way. The extra 5" of space it takes up visually makes the trailer seem smaller. Much nicer without it.

I made numerous electrical changes to mine, pair of 6 volt golf cart batteries for more capacity, different converter/charger to replace the single stage Paralax unit, Tri Metric battery monitoring system, and a 200 watt solar system with MPPT charge controller. I also put a new smaller Morningstar Sine Wave inverter in and switching so it can feed the original inverter outlets. The original 1000 watt WFCO takes too much standby power, the Morningstar almost none.
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:38 PM   #123
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Hi idroba. I quite agree about the divider and accordionslide in the 20. I plan to remove it from my 2007 Safari 20 along with some other planned changes.

Did you run into any tricky fasteners when you extracted yours. Love to know.
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Old 06-03-2015, 05:24 PM   #124
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The dig was in it before we got it. I prefer to do the small things like this myself because I am sure we will get more and I have little faith that they will repair it to my liking without keeping it the entire summer. Like the edges on the formica top on the fridge unit. Worst workmanship possible. I'll fix it myself later. Can't believe the factory does not use a fresh bit when the old one gets clogged with glue. Instead they burn the bearing through the edge finish. I'll sand the corners and find the laminate and buy a piece so sometime next winter I can fix it properly.

Love the idea about the divider. I'll look, but I never saw a tp holder.

If I lay my head on a pillow the Magazine holder is slightly higher than my head, but close enough I am gonna get rid of it unless we end up sleeping the other way which I think I will like better anyway. Particularly if I get rid of the accordian.
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Old 06-03-2015, 06:05 PM   #125
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We sleep the other way. It's a little more open and don't feel enclosed.
TP holder on our 20 foot is located in the inside door under sink
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Old 06-03-2015, 06:32 PM   #126
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Yup, youse guys are right. It's inside the door under the sink. Super! Now I gots paper! Awesome.

I'll look at removing the accordian tomorrow.
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