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Old 05-20-2016, 12:45 PM   #925
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Alas sorry to disappoint but OTRA w/o trailer. Bad terminology . . .



Getting closer though . . . Fridge is chilling.

I almost dug out the small impact driver for that last A/C screw, but the Phillips heads for that have too-large diameter drive tips. Fortunately the new screwdriver did the trick with lots of applied pressure on the screw head. A totally stripped screw in this location would actually require partial destruction of the bottom cover IMO, or some really dicey drilling and screw extractors upside down! No thanks. Dodged that bullet . . .

Thanks for the Use/Store heads up. I guess the old 25' was like that so I have always followed that protocol and the batteries did fine this winter with shore power and trailer 12v juggled constantly, all while monitoring voltage, water and SpecGrav. Having the trailer in the driveway made this very simple fortunately.
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:27 PM   #926
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. . I’ll also be more diligent on finding a few spare 30 slow blow fuses for my “spares” bag.
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Did you ever find any of these 30A slow-blow fuses? Amazon does not have them, and our local auto parts stores don't either. See here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...se-151073.html

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Old 05-21-2016, 02:30 PM   #927
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Disregard, NAPA had a pack of 5 for about $11.
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Old 05-22-2016, 12:02 AM   #928
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Disregard, NAPA had a pack of 5 for about $11.
I may be sending your an order : ))) kinda kidding..kinda not. I'll know more Monday

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Old 05-22-2016, 06:57 AM   #929
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I guess you can order online, but your NAPA store should have them IMO. The label on the end of the small box does not indicate Slow-blow, so the counter clerk did not find them right away. A search of the catalog yielded the right SKU.

http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/...335/BK_7821335

On end of small box:
782-1335...QTY
MDL-30........5
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30 A SB fuses

Peter, Not sure what happened last night but there was a post re tale of woe re my fuse search futility.

I'll call the local Napa's today (3) as online shows out of stock. Online store pick up show out of stock too. I'll know more today.

As I had indicated in the failed post, the dealer referred me to a local specialty electrical supplier (Oregon Electric). If need be I'll try them Monday and maybe my mechanic, since I have a service scheduled this week.

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p.s more later on the AC/T condensation connection.
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:52 AM   #931
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Your post is on that other thread where rich just posted an Amazon link for a Bussman 32v fuse which looks OK also.
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Old 05-22-2016, 12:37 PM   #932
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Your post is on that other thread where rich just posted an Amazon link for a Bussman 32v fuse which looks OK also.

How embarrassing. yes, the other thread.

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Old 05-22-2016, 05:33 PM   #933
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Online was out and it indicated local stores were as well.

I called to local Napa who was out of stock be he said, Portland will have it here on Monday. Apparently plenty in stock just not available online or locally except for a 1/2 hour drive North.

I think I'm still going to go by Oregon Ele (just don the street from Napa) to discuss slow blow availability in spade types which may be more readily available.

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Swapping in a new fuse holder may void your warranty for further tongue jack motor problems? Glass fuses will be around for a long time IMO. Is yours working now, sorry I forget . . .
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Swapping in a new fuse holder may void your warranty for further tongue jack motor problems? Glass fuses will be around for a long time IMO. Is yours working now, sorry I forget . . .
Peter great point on the warranty..tho I also don't have one anymore on the refer fan (albeit a much cheaper component) I have ordered 2 5-packs as they're cheap and take no space.

Yes the jack is working, thanks. The gears were jammed due to the no system stop and the new plate with a lower collar, thus further post travel upwards. The motor overloaded at jam and blew the fuse.

Someone mentioned there should be a stop in the jack. The dealer said no even thought that was the original instruction. I've read the Barker manual more times that the Sony manual and it is silent on that point. I'm calling this week.

I'm putting another screw on the back of the post...just above their stop line, just as insurance. It if jams, it's the dealer. I'm sure I'll be on the east coast then. Orcas I will be a good test with two nights on the way and there must be a dealer in the Seattle area.


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Old 05-22-2016, 11:42 PM   #936
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I think I'll follow Bob and swap out the FR drain.

AC, drain is on DS WW. As for the T, no clamp and the tube less than an 1/8th past the barbs. With some pliers gingerly on the hose I pushed against the T held by my left hand middle finger and gained another 1/8th+. You can see the line on the hose from the original position. I'll take one more pass for another 1/8th and maybe get a screw gear clamp on what hose I have.

Thanks Teagues, for the tip re a slightly nose up attitude Looking into the unit, I suspect that is a big part of the fix.

Peter, thanks for the tip on the tabs and the step stool. I actually had get the side of my face almost to the ceiling to see them.

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Old 05-23-2016, 01:14 AM   #937
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Thanks Bob,

Re: fresh water tank drain -- A later poster (on that other thread), however, did say that freeing up the old plastic drain from the hose/clamp behind it was a bear. I would get a spare plastic drain only for now, and wait on the surgery IMO. "If it ain't broke . . . ?" [ possibility of a can of worms lurking here, especially pre-Orcas ] [edit -- dealer in Seattle area is supposed to be excellent]

Are you able to run your A/C with the drain line exposed? That is what I want to see -- is the drain backing up from a kink down the line maybe? Is that back-pressure causing a leak? Why does teagues's fix work at all? Want to see mine in person if possible before replacing the cover. Planning on getting my Honda 3500 up to the house this week if I have time, and running the A/C until I can see the condensate in the drain(s), and hopefully also dripping on the ground near the street-side wheel. I could run the A/C on my 20 amp circuit (per earlier post) I guess, but that voltage drop did not recommend this approach. Rather not damage the motors . . .

Getting a new hose clamp up there (without removing the tube from the barbed T) is going to be a pain, as the geometry is tight up there. Do you think the tubing will slip off without messing up other things? Is it possible that this slip-on friction fit is intentional and within specs., given that there should be no back pressure in the main drain line (unless of course there is a kink downstream from a sloppy installation)?

There is only one way to answer these questions -- which is to see the thing run and generate plenty of condensate, while observing visually.

If there IS an obstruction downstream, which causes the condensate to back up and leak at the non-clamped location, I will probably consider taking the trailer back to a dealer for repair. Who knows where the blockage might be? We don't like to use the A/C at all, but when it is needed, it is a life-saver. We spent a few days huddled in the old 25' in Maine of all places during a heat wave, and were sure mighty glad for the A/C. The trailer was uninhabitable without it!

TBD until I can see it run, I guess . . .

Cheers,

Peter

PS -- Thanks for confirming the location of the drain at the wheel well. Did you actually see condensate come out there, or just observed the drain outlet location?

PS2 -- I did find some black hard steel pan-head Phillips sheet metal screws and will use them. #6 x 3/4" screws are a bit tighter in the OEM holes in the interior aluminum skin, but this is OK. I also got some #8 screws to have on hand in case they are needed down the road. Not sure if the #8 heads would fit in the plastic lower case "tubes" for the screws, but that bridge is over the horizon . . .

PS3 -- "Ain't trailerin' fun . . . ?"



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I am having trouble getting my bearings here. Guessing that there was a design change at some point, since my unit only has a single line leading off of the drain pan and it is not nearly as accessible or visible as what I am seeing here. With your configuration, it should be easy to determine whether an obstruction exists, and you would not need to run the AC to do it.


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