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Old 05-03-2016, 06:28 AM   #841
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I finally got around to replacing our spare last week. I had no problem fitting the new one into the spare tire holder. Did not have to make any adjustments.
Thanks for the info. I ran out of time this weekend and I'm going to take a drive up to the storage unit and give it a shot.

I appreciate the sentiment from all on the board. Hard to believe it all started as a conversation with my Dad about paying for my waaaay too expensive private college. 12 years later here I am!
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:34 PM   #842
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I finally got around to replacing our spare last week. I had no problem fitting the new one into the spare tire holder. Did not have to make any adjustments.
Teagues - I found the same to be true when I just "uploaded" the spare... no bending necessary in fact I had about 1/2'' to spare...

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Old 05-03-2016, 08:35 PM   #843
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My 2008 Safari SE looks identical to this, except for a different model toilet, but everything else is exactly the same.

I plan on working on the toilet removal early next week. First order of business is getting that black water tank as clean as possible before I go messing around with it.

My plan is to tap into the existing black water vent for the composting toilet exhaust.

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Thanks for the feedback J. As I just said to Bob, you guys are probably right about the bath sink not draining into the black water holding tank. Sorry for the misdirection on this.

I continue to feel, however, that the black tank probably does go under the shower somewhat, but that it may indeed be removable from above. The following photos may help, at least for our 2014 FC20 bath. [click on photos to enlarge] Curious to know how similar yours is.

Here is the basic view as one enters the bath from the center hall:

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As I mentioned before, see how the line of the front edge of the platform under the toilet carries through visually into the shower pan raised platform +/- ? IMO the black tank goes under there, although I now think it may still be removable from above after the toilet is taken out (if it is just slid under the shower pan and not attached back there).

The next photo is a close-up of the area to the right of the toilet (with the aluminum shield removed) showing the black tank vent pipe, and the white water supply line behind it, tucked in the back corner against the street-side exterior wall.

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This next photo is a close-up looking down into that back corner, showing the black vent pipe going into the top of the black tank. The forward edge of the tank is just to the right (in this photo) of where the pipe is. [important to note this when assessing tank size and location under shower -- see later comment] In other words, the black tank does not extend to the right under the bath vanity cabinet. Indeed you can actually see some kind of wooden sub-floor down there under the tank, under that red pipe. A flashlight would help here.

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The fourth and final photo shows the aluminum shield propped back in place, just to give you a visual on what you probably also have. I encourage everyone to remove this simple shield/cover, to compare our as-built similarities. [3-4 small Phillips screws]

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Given that the black tank holds about 18 gallons I believe, it seems unlikely to these eyes that the entire 18 gallons would fit under the toilet platform, without also going under the shower somewhat. Also if you look at the trailer from the exterior street-side, check out where the main black water waste line comes down vertically out of the black tank, behind the larger dump valve (on the right as you look at the trailer). This vertical run is to the right of the bath windows (as I recall) which are centered on the toilet, or in other words that vertical is under the shower somewhat IMO. It is dark out now, so I can't get a photo of this, but will check it out later in the morning after a doctor's appt..

I agree with you J that the black water tank may indeed be removable from above, after taking the toilet, platform and vent out. If it does in fact sneak under the shower somewhat, hopefully it is not attached back there. BTW was it you who mentioned earlier (or another poster elsewhere maybe?) that the existing vent line could be tapped into for the exhaust fan air circulation required for a composting toilet?

OK that's the report from the poop deck this morning at 0500 EDT -- glad to get to the bottom of this.



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Old 05-04-2016, 04:05 PM   #844
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Stove Vent

Has anyone replaced the plastic outside stove vent on the FC 20? On my first camping trip one of the plastic arms that holds the vent shut during travel snapped off.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:43 AM   #845
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Has anyone replaced the plastic outside stove vent on the FC 20? On my first camping trip one of the plastic arms that holds the vent shut during travel snapped off.

Yes I replaced ours with a stainless steel. I've replaced almost all exterior plastics with SS
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Old 05-05-2016, 06:01 AM   #846
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Subfan....where did you buy the stainless steel one?

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Old 05-05-2016, 06:50 AM   #847
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. . .
I plan on working on the toilet removal early next week. First order of business is getting that black water tank as clean as possible before I go messing around with it.
. . .
Thanks. FYI I did a quick visual on the street-side exterior, near the black water dump valve, and continue to feel that the black tank does sneak under the shower a bit. The main vertical waste run coming down from the black tank, behind the black dump valve, when referenced L/R to the toilet window, suggests this IMO. [all directions as seen from the street looking at the trailer dump valves etc.]

You will know soon enough next week . . .

Good luck cleaning out the tank!

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Old 05-05-2016, 01:35 PM   #848
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Subfan....where did you buy the stainless steel one?



Thanks

Hi I bought all of them at my local AS dealership. You can order them on line from the AS factory as well.
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Old 05-06-2016, 01:10 AM   #849
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Yes I replaced ours with a stainless steel. I've replaced almost all exterior plastics with SS

Subfan1, seems you posted awhile ago on also replacing the billeted CW connection etc. ...were all of the above from local dealership (?)/JC as well?

I remember opening the vent's on arrival at our first (not in a friend's driveway ) stop & also checking the clips for closure before departure...hmmm...and thinking how long before these flimsy $%^# plastic clips break off on the road or the next time I touch them. This isn't what I wasn't expecting with AS.


BTW, thanks for you and otra15 for your work and experience on the wheel wells/Subfloor exposure. This could have easily slipped by unnoticed, with damage to follow.

Your experience and feed back is appreciated. This is a tough area to access and new territory on the application process. Key is that it's sealed up and not a photo op. Great work. Thx.

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I agree....can't believe they installed a cheap plastic vent with flimsy clips...definitely not "Airstream Quality". I will order a stainless one and replace it.

I am also going to explore the wheel wells and seal up the seams etc...
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Regarding AS QC I figure "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know."

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You're welcome Bob, thanks for the kind words. Yes everything came from Airstream of Orange County in Westminster CA.
Were you referring to the mod on my BBQ grill? If so, I bought the part at a local hardware store. I removed the regulator and installed the 1/8 inch nipple in its place.
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As we are shaking down all of the systems my wife and I try to play a Blu Ray in the provided player. We were able to get to the main screen of the movie but could not select "play." We tried the Samsung TV remote, the Clarion remote, and the button on the top right. None worked. This was a used trailer so is there another remote that we were not provided?
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As we are shaking down all of the systems my wife and I try to play a Blu Ray in the provided player. We were able to get to the main screen of the movie but could not select "play." We tried the Samsung TV remote, the Clarion remote, and the button on the top right. None worked. This was a used trailer so is there another remote that we were not provided?

waldosgone; our '14 came with 1 ea for the TV & BR (Samsung) and Sony (stereo). Try fresh batteries. On our maiden voyage (Jan/Feb) I couldn't get the TV to work...some buttons worked and others didn't so I swapped out the batts on both and all worked properly. On the recent trip Beachside a few weeks ago...seem delio...Inconsistent results from the buttons, but this time the BR. Then I remembered storage. I had slipped (Stuffed) all three remotes inside a tight space between two plastic boxes so they wouldn't roll around and I think maybe some of the bottoms were depressed (on) and it drained the batts. Of course, I ruled out lack of operational knowledge


I have attached my three remotes, with the BR on the right (now with some blue painters tape for ID purposes) and TV in the middle.

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