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Old 04-10-2016, 07:16 AM   #715
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TCwheels FYI here is another recent thread on fridge fans, and as you probably realize there have been others:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...an-148383.html

Not sure if Bob got the same fan I did but I do recognize the Silenx brand. Mine are in a box awaiting installation. I got two on sale at Amazon to have a back-up, and possibly add the second inline if needed, and if the existing supply wire and fuse are adequate.

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Old 04-10-2016, 07:17 AM   #716
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Our 20 is at audio shop getting upgraded marine stereo with blue tooth. They're adding a hard wired Weboost cell signal booster in the trailer, so I can turn on my phone's wifi hotspot and have Internet access on the road. We've now been in enough campgrounds with promised wifi that just didn't cut it. Had to find a better alternative. I need to stay connected to my ofc a couple times a week - organized around our hike/bike/kayak schedule of course! DW is retiring the end of next month 😎 and she'll want to stay connected to kids and grandkids while we're on extended trips.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:39 AM   #717
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Great improvements. Look forward to hearing the details and functionality.

Are you adding a new antenna or working off the OEM? There are threads in the Boondocking sub-forum which discuss cell boosting.

Come on Spring!
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:45 PM   #718
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Did you mean to post pictures of the fan install you referenced? I'd like to see them, thanks
Subfan1, yes, The first image is to show how I determined the neg side. I'll have to look back for the image and link that ID'd the middle hot. The second image shows how my OEM wiring drops down right on the fins. The last three are the new install to show how I attached the #12 wire above so it rest on the fins..


This is the thread that I followed with some great step by step instructions.

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Old 04-10-2016, 03:45 PM   #719
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Subfan1, yes, The first image is to show how I determined the neg side. I'll have to look back for the image and link that ID'd the middle hot. The second image shows how my OEM wiring drops down right on the fins. The last three are the new install to show how I attached the #12 wire above so it rest on the fins..


This is the thread that I followed with some great step by step instructions.

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Thanks, for some reason I couldn't see the pictures you posted last night. I see them now however.
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Cruizin - Thanks much for the fan install description and pics. My fan is dead, so this is a needed fix for me too.
TCWheels here is the thread I used to evaluate the fan project (# of fans and sheet metal etc). It's a lot of pages so you may want to start @ #183.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f425...-11811-14.html

Once I decided on the fan, following the lead of Rifrafult, pasted #183 and #186 into a word document for note adding as it applied to our 20. I don't think he had a fan switch on the wall. J Bean followed with some great pics @ # 199 for a great visual.

However in the end, it was clip the red (+) and blue (-) that connect from the fan, install new fan and reconnect. I left about 6" on the old fan in case I wanted to use if for something else. I left as much of the original wiring as I could that I bundled up @ the right bulkhead. I saw no reason to cut it out.

I have also found the 3 wire pic so you can confirm the hot side. It may even be in the above thread. The other as noted in my first earlier image is the odd man out. The other side is the neg leg.

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Old 04-10-2016, 03:55 PM   #721
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Thanks, for some reason I couldn't see the pictures you posted last night. I see them now however.
Subfan1, no problem...I was having trouble with the posting so you're right. I think I had to go back and add them??? can't remember how I solved it.. it was late.

I also have other pics if you need clarification. just let me know.

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[QUOTE=OTRA15;1774468]Thanks for the new photos Bob. Glad the new fan is better. Do you have any sense of what someone else said on that other thread: is this exterior fridge space a closed one?

In other words, if we propped the top exterior door all the way up (and thus lost the screening to keep insects out), would they be confined to the small space around the fins and other fridge mechanicals? In my old 25' AS trailer (~1985), I seem to recall that the insects could have gotten into the insulation in the exterior wall. Thus keeping the fridge ventilation doors closed made sense. With awning out at a campground, maybe opening the top door is part of the solution to minimizing "fan on" status . . .

{ I'll try the door open on our trip, but will have to see how the canvas comes into lay I think it was Doug's picture but his seem to be wide open spaces and our has to deal with the door covering thing when open and latched.}

Weird, the wiring going my fan is in one of those flex sleeves for protection, and looks like it takes a different route from your Post 688. I did not get around to posting a photo of it yesterday after the hiccup with the exposed plywood floor at the wheel well. It is as if the factory workers are given free reign to install things however they feel like it, with no master specs. to keep them on the straight and narrow . . .

Or did you have one of those plastic flex sleeves protecting your wiring harness to the fan, but had already removed it?

{ My #12 OEM dropped from above between the fans and the fins, the headed to the right all jammed into the flex sleeve. I removed the sleeve, untangled the mess, cut out and removed the old fan, reinstalled the fan, reconnected the wiring, then went to organize things. I put some ele tape on the plastic clamp to hold the screw in place, then attached two clamps to the 3/4 X along the top to keep it up and off the fins. Then I re- organized on the wall side, leaving some to coil at the fan and add the flex sleeve (now in two pieces to accommodate the clamp on the wall). The lower one has slipped down a bit so need to zip it.

Looks like our frost warning last night was the final one. Hoping to turn on the water next week. { Great news!!!}

Peter

PS -- Gorgeous park, reminds me of one we hiked into near Arcata CA way back when. Here is a hot link:

{ Maybe Fern Canyon? N of Trinidad If I remember correctly}
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Subfan1, yes, .... The last three are the new install to show how I attached the #12 wire above so it rest on the fins..


This is the thread that I followed with some great step by step instructions.

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ooops...so it DOESN'T rest on the fins.
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Old 04-10-2016, 05:33 PM   #724
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Looks to me like the upper fridge vent door could be open with the awning out, the only question would be how to hold it up -- velcro pads stuck in place maybe? Even with the main entry door latched open, fridge exhaust air flow would be increased a lot. Basically the location of the fridge is bad for exterior air circulation obviously. Make the most of a bad situation? The other downside is insects in the fridge space. Acceptable given the benefit of better air flow?

Even with a quieter fan, it blows right onto the open main door, a difficult situation in hot weather with no air circulation around the trailer.

The better design solution (more $$$) would have been to run an exhaust flue up to exit above the awning, like our old 25' and many other models have. The flue cap was streamlined so the fridge could be on dependably while on the road.

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Interesting Bob that your fan sits ON the black rubber edge protection over the aluminum RO cutout, whereas my rubber EP was just jammed behind the fan entirely. Will route mine similar to your bottom shot in Post 688. Guess I might as well stop whining about all the little inconsistencies in quality control too . . . distracting . . . apologies to all.

Yup Fern Canyon was the place -- mid 70's . . . thanks for the catch.
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Interesting Bob that your fan sits ON the black rubber edge protection over the aluminum RO cutout, whereas my rubber EP was just jammed behind the fan entirely. Will route mine similar to your bottom shot in Post 688. Guess I might as well stop whining about all the little inconsistencies in quality control too . . . distracting . . . apologies to all.

Yup Fern Canyon was the place -- mid 70's . . . thanks for the catch.
Peter for sure. Some were obviously paying more attention than others (like in my LP drains under the WH) when working on the units. But you're right, QC is all over the map.

Here is my partial solution to air flow ; ) Same part # as with the rear window holder opener


As for Fern Canyon, I've been by on numerous occasions, so from my buddy who went to Humboldt State...a very trippy place to spend a day. I'm usually on the fast track to the wharf at Trinidad for fish and chips and a brewski.

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p.s. Haven't forgotten Merle...
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Here is a better image of the clamp attachment holding the # 12 wiring up high above the fins

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Great subject guys since I've been thinking about how to keep the door partially opened to keep some air circulating. While dry camping I usually leave the upper vent door opened. In order to not mark up the side of the trailer I cut a short piece of clear vinyl tubing sliced it up the middle and attach it to the latch and remove it store it in the lower door wire harness. Now the entrance door. I read that the first 3 25 FB model trailers had the entrance door hinged opposite of how they are hinged now. Brian uploaded a picture of a latch that you could buy from Airstream and it kept the door partially opened. I thought it was a great solution to my problem. I can't seem to find the picture though. I'll try looking for it so I can post it here.
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