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Old 03-26-2016, 05:56 AM   #645
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The Michelin LTX M/S2 model is listed here as available in that size. I am not sure if it is currently stocked, or is available only until inventory runs out. I plan on getting a M&S snow tire for braking and turning traction in slushy/snowy road conditions, not that I plan to tow then, but I would not want to be stuck with plain road tread tires. TCwheels clarified that his were M&S in Post 432.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

Ray Eklund in the first thread linked in my last post seems to be getting these tires IMO.

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Peter - Are you saying that it seems prudent to use M&S snow tires year-round, even if one doesn't haul the Airstream during slushy/snowy weather season?
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:17 AM   #646
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Otra - thanks for the scoop on DAR. We probably won't be heading that way this year, as I think we will be doing a combo of weekend trips to the beach: Cape Cod and Maine - then a joining the NE or CT WBCCI groups for weekend gatherings. The first one is April 14-15 Pets & Paws Rally in Mansfield MA.

Anyone a member of the WBCCI groups for these two areas? Would love to see and meet some folks from this very active forum!
Wild Child - I'm in southern Maine, and although I'm not signed up for the WBCCI New England Unit trip on April 14-15, I'd be glad to meet you when you are passing through or staying in this area. Incidentally, the White Mountains New Hampshire Unit (WMNHU), of which I am a member, stayed a few days at Winslow Park in Freeport, Maine last September and some experienced Airstreamers said that it was their favorite low-key campground where they've ever stayed. It is really beautiful.
http://freeportmaine.com/department....php?page_id=98 I have actually gone back during the off-season just to walk around.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:48 AM   #647
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Peter - Are you saying that it seems prudent to use M&S snow tires year-round, even if one doesn't haul the Airstream during slushy/snowy weather season?
Yes Marty I feel that is the way to go, as the M&S will help in mud, sand and other off-road areas in addition to snow (especially for braking and cornering). As a practical matter, most of the cars I have had have always had M&S tires added for year-round travel, and they are OEM equipment on many vehicles. A bit noisier perhaps (in cars and tow vehicles), with slightly lower MPGs, but the benefits outweigh the costs IMO.

Michelin also makes an all-terrain tire (as do many other mfg.) with a more aggressive tread -- not needed IMO for most trailers.


renderit -- not sure about the "poor 20 footers" notion, or with the concept that separate threads would work well for this community. In my personal opinion, the freedom to post on various topics within this thread is a strength not a fault. Obviously YMMV, and I have said a few times that starting another thread would be fine if people object. I just don't think these discussions are easily severable that's all. The same thing will happen all over again, because we tend to wander around to (mostly!) relevant sub-topics. That is what happens in a community which shares the same rather unique floor plan and design. Everything is connected by our shared hub.

There is always the option of NOT reading any particular post, and moving on, ya know? The "pain" of doing so seems slight IMO . . .

I am fine with everyone pointing the way on this . . .

Have a good weekend.

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PS Marty thanks also for the campground heads up. We are hoping to get up that way this year, and will let you know if/when.
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Old 03-26-2016, 07:45 AM   #648
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Steve I am planning to upgrade the wheels and tires similar to what TCwheels did here in Post 72 (with details in later posts as I recall).

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...ml#post1563704

I have been collecting threads about the tire issues, so here are the links in case you are interested. Obviously the threads run the gamut of trailer sizes and uses. The most recent thread, along with the tire sub-forum, follows next:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...es-148274.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438/

Other threads focusing on Michelin possibilities, mainly 16" but not exclusively, and wheels (not necessarily in chronological order -- there is lots of reading to do):

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...es-145883.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...es-147401.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...-a-127087.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...de-146508.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...de-146800.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...es-143822.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...ms-130350.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...s2-137278.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...xl-144555.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...res-69297.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...es-146825.html

Centramatics thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...ad-129161.html


After all the reading, I keep coming back to what TCwheels went with, which I believe is available in a current design Michelin M&S (mud and snow) tread.



I think the Defender M&S has replaced the previous models, but your tire dealer can probably give complete advice, including sizes and load rating. With our single axles, we need an "E" load rating IMO (only 2 tires to carry 5,000 total gross weight), with a speed rating well above 65 MPH. In the drop-down "Size" frame, however, I do not see the 225/75 size. Hmmmm . . .

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...nder+LTX+M%2FS

Previous models for M&S:

http://www.michelinman.com/US/en/tir.../ltx-m-s.html#
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tir...19&irpid=10078
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

These dealer sites have drop down menus/boxes with details about available sizes, and the load and speed ratings.

Confusing!

This is what I needed....thanks. I will read through them. I am inclined to stick with the 15 inch wheels because of the Tyron bands already being paid for.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:01 AM   #649
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The only hitch, Steve, may be that the industry seems to moving away from 15" to 16" . I think it is the user "switz"" who has posted on this in other threads, but maybe someone else? The availability of Michelin 15" M&S in the load/speed ratings we need may be limited.

I would probably also stick with 15" except for the availability factor. Please let us know what you find.

Thanks,

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Old 03-26-2016, 11:03 AM   #650
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Originally Posted by OTRA15;1767573renderit -- not sure about the "poor 20 footers" notion, or with the concept that separate threads would work well for this community. In my personal opinion, the freedom to post on various topics within this thread is a [I
strength [/I]not a fault. Obviously YMMV, and I have said a few times that starting another thread would be fine if people object. I just don't think these discussions are easily severable that's all. The same thing will happen all over again, because we tend to wander around to (mostly!) relevant sub-topics. That is what happens in a community which shares the same rather unique floor plan and design. Everything is connected by our shared hub..
I understand the logic of splitting, but agree with Peter. I enjoy the freedom to jump around within our thread. Plus I use the mobile ap almost exclusively and the search feature is, to be polite, clunky. With our mixed topic thread I just look at "participated" threads and know it's all here. Just my $.02
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Old 03-26-2016, 12:12 PM   #651
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Thanks TCwheels.

-- OT humor --


In honor of Easter, and to wander a bit further off-topic, do you know how to catch a unique rabbit?

Unique up on it.

How to catch a tame rabbit?

Tame way!


Laughter is good for the soul . . .



Have a good weekend and Happy Trails!

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Old 03-26-2016, 01:30 PM   #652
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Oh boy.....I have spent the last 5.5 hours reading and researching about tires, wheels, centramatics (which I had an loved on my old Airstream) and my brain is completely fogged up!! I am leaning towards the Michelin's, have found 15" ones that look like they would do the job and need to make some decisions on whether to upgrade to 16 inch wheels or not.

Does anyone know if the warranty on a new Airstream is in danger if we switch from 15 to 16 inch wheels/tires?
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I'm hoping that by the time we need new tires, Michelin will have the 15" Defender series available in our tire size, which would be perfect for the 15" wheels.
I think the Michelin Defender series is the tire the 16" people are moving to.
I don't want to be buying wheels when I have to go get tires.
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TerryC....I agree. If we can continue to use the 15" rims and get better tires such as Michelin Defender etc....., then, I can wait a bit. The Airstream is brand new. I haven't had time to check the dates on the GM's yet, but will do that.
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:41 PM   #655
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As diverse as the 20 footers threads can run, personally I think it's better that trying to follow a lot of separate threads. Also the threads I think are more relevant as most posters have the same 20' floor plan with a fairly short range of ages (considering the overall ages of AS's) and associated questions and often but apparently not always, the same equipment.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Peter, thanks for the humor...a little off topic, but it livens thing up none the less. This thread has a great variety of information, advice and friendships, and I enjoy the interaction.

All the best to everyone.

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I am having so much fun out here in America. Have seen so many things for the first time. Vinny is pulling like a champ and Boomer is so much fun, no stability issues even in some pretty high wind. All of you at home, get up, get out and lets do some camping.
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VinnyBoomer, Congrats on getting out so early. I suspect we're all chomping at the bit to de-winterize and get some road time in. We're pegged for 4 nights on the OR Coast..29 days but who's counting?


Any chance of you could post a pic of your rig?

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Do any of you use an Air Safe Hitch, as I have been reading about on Airstream Addicts Facebook page? Comments?
http://airsafehitch.com/category/air...vers/class-vi/

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