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Old 11-08-2015, 03:48 PM   #379
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Hey Wild Child, I know the feeling. I put her to bed for the winter today too . . .

I plan to store her outside for the winter, with batteries removed, but with 2-3 Damp Chasers plugged in to 120 volt receptacles and located here probably:

-- under the bed with door left open
-- in head, stuck down in space to right of and below toilet (where I had removed the aluminum cover plate in order to R&D leaks)
-- under the sink

These Damp Chasers have a low draw, and emit a safe and gentle heat. They were designed for old musty closets in old houses with no A/C or dehumidification. My family has used them all over for decades, and they work great!

I remove all liquids/gels which should not freeze, leave all cabinet doors open, use sponges to prop open the freezer and fridge doors (very important IMO). I will probably leave a small fan running inside all winter with the bath door open. The 3 Damp Chasers and circulating air will keep things pretty fresh until Spring. I did the same thing with my old 25' in the 90's and it worked out fine.

If we get a stretch of nice dry and sunny weather, I try to remember to crack a window by the dinette and a skylight or two. I love the windows we have hinged at the top, which permit this! This would work in your storage area too?

Damp Chasers may be called Golden Rods in Amazon. I will post links later.

[posted without editing or checking for typos!]

Later . . .
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:35 PM   #380
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Sorry for the hasty departure before . . .

Here are the Dampp-Chasers, which come in different lengths:

Storage Dehumidifier | Dampp Chaser

The local hardware store carries this brand, which comes in different lengths. 18-24" is plenty for the 3 locations I mentioned earlier, although maybe a 36" or 48" would be better under the bed. Hmmm.

Here is a similar product at Amazon although I have never used this brand:

Amazon.com: GoldenRod Original Dehumidifier, 18-Inch: Sports & Outdoors

In your house, if you have any closets or parts of the basement which are a bit moldy or tend to get mildewed, the Dampp Chasers will take care of these problem areas as well. They come with pretty long white cords BTW.

For the winter I will run a 50' #12 extension cord to the trailer's shore power 30A cord (with 15A/30A plug adapter) to supply the trailer's outlets for this low wattage use. Even after the batteries go back in, this will also be enough to handle the battery charging system IMO.

PS -- propane off for the winter too.
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Old 11-09-2015, 12:22 PM   #381
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FYI here is some information on the replacement brass vacuum breaker for our 20' units under the lavatory counter FYI:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f163...ml#post1708060
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:14 PM   #382
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Sorry for the hasty departure before . . .

Here are the Dampp-Chasers, which come in different lengths:

Storage Dehumidifier | Dampp Chaser

The local hardware store carries this brand, which comes in different lengths. 18-24" is plenty for the 3 locations I mentioned earlier, although maybe a 36" or 48" would be better under the bed. Hmmm.

Here is a similar product at Amazon although I have never used this brand:

Amazon.com: GoldenRod Original Dehumidifier, 18-Inch: Sports & Outdoors

In your house, if you have any closets or parts of the basement which are a bit moldy or tend to get mildewed, the Dampp Chasers will take care of these problem areas as well. They come with pretty long white cords BTW.

For the winter I will run a 50' #12 extension cord to the trailer's shore power 30A cord (with 15A/30A plug adapter) to supply the trailer's outlets for this low wattage use. Even after the batteries go back in, this will also be enough to handle the battery charging system IMO.

PS -- propane off for the winter too.

Thanks! You always post very helpful info!
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:19 PM   #383
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20-footers

We're in Pisgah National Recreation Area staying at Lake Potawan campground JUST outside Asheville NC. Great park and campground. We had to find a spot for tonight as our reservation doesn't start until tomorrow (some miscalculations on the part of yours truly!) and we parked right next to another 20! Pulled by a white SUV, if you can believe it! That's ours on the right in the pic...
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:46 PM   #384
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We're in Pisgah National Recreation Area staying at Lake Potawan campground JUST outside Asheville NC. Great park and campground. We had to find a spot for tonight as our reservation doesn't start until tomorrow (some miscalculations on the part of yours truly!) and we parked right next to another 20! Pulled by a white SUV, if you can believe it! That's ours on the right in the pic...
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It's us! We couldn't believe our eyes when we returned from the supermarket and there was another 20 footer right beside us! What's even crazier is there was one here when we arrived the other day! Three here in a week. The 20s are taking over!!!
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:11 PM   #385
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Cue the Twilight Zone theme!

And you are both regular contributors here . . .

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Old 11-09-2015, 08:02 PM   #386
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That's ours on the right in the pic...
Thanks for the earlier comment, and the recent photo.

What are the temps there BTW?

Hope I have this wrong, but is it possible your rally site may be flooded?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...sc-128352.html

Again, hope I have this wrong, or that things will dry out in the next few days.

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It's us! We couldn't believe our eyes when we returned from the supermarket and there was another 20 footer right beside us! What's even crazier is there was one here when we arrived the other day! Three here in a week. The 20s are taking over!!!

StanandLynn - That is wild! We moved to our reserved site today, but we'll stop in tonight or tomorrow night and say Hi!

Peter - We trekked to the summit of Bald Mountain and Mt. Pisgah today and it was in the mid-fifties to sixty with sun all afternoon. Tomorrow is 60s-70 and sunny.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:19 PM   #388
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20' FC Frame size

Currently looking at purchasing a 20' FC or possible a 23FB wondered what the frame size is on the 20'? Searched around but can not seem to find that info.

Also wondered if the 20' or 23FB FC has ever had any of the cracked frame issues that the International 22' with the same layouts apparently had? If so what years do I need to watch out for.

Thanks in advance for the help.
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:18 PM   #389
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It's us! We couldn't believe our eyes when we returned from the supermarket and there was another 20 footer right beside us! What's even crazier is there was one here when we arrived the other day! Three here in a week. The 20s are taking over!!!
Wow! How cool is that. Why the heck aren't we there??!! Lesson learned: When the weather gets cool up North. .. Head South, and fast! There are sure to be other 20' AS fellow travelers there to have happy hour with!
Safe travels all.
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Sorry for the hasty departure before . . .

Here are the Dampp-Chasers, which come in different lengths:

Storage Dehumidifier | Dampp Chaser

The local hardware store carries this brand, which comes in different lengths. 18-24" is plenty for the 3 locations I mentioned earlier, although maybe a 36" or 48" would be better under the bed. Hmmm

PS -- propane off for the winter too.
Hi - Thanks so much for the info on the Damp Chasers! I will check those out.
We will shut off the propane, pull the batteries and I have pulled all of the bedding. I'm thinking I may pull the seat cushions too. I'm trying not to be neurotic - but I truly am fearful of mice getting in and doing their nasty in the trailer.
We rent the heated garage space for our unit which is nice and clean but once we are "in" - we are "in for the season".
Thanks again for your thoughts and resources!
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:52 PM   #391
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Currently looking at purchasing a 20' FC or possible a 23FB wondered what the frame size is on the 20'? Searched around but can not seem to find that info.

Thanks in advance for the help.
The frame on my 2014 FC 20 is 5 inches deep.

The frame on my '74 Argosy 20' is 4 inches deep. 40 years old of course.

I like the deep frame of the 20' ones being built today.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:58 PM   #392
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TC & Stan & Lynn. Very cosmic. A dimension of sight…a dimension of mind…you've just crossed over to the dimension of…..20-footers. Enjoy the dimensions and the weather.

We winterized last weekend…first time…probably first pass. We’re hopeful that we’ll grab an Oregon December getaway after retirement 11/30…then winterize Blue until Feb when we head south…Santa Cruz(RV park at the yacht harbor) then on to Paso/SLO/Morro Bay (wine song on the other thread)…destination San Diego…El Indio then dog beach to introduce to my dog my favorite college surf spot. Seems we left SD for points north to experience seasons…now we’re heading south for the lack of.

I opened the low points and all faucets at storage…drove to the City dump station and flushed, then 15 miles home (allowing things to continue their drain to LP's). At home I flushed the HW, and tilted the tongue up, then down allowing time for all liquids to reach the LP’s. I then pressurized the lines per instruction/suggestions (thanks to all, especially Peter for the advice) and lastly added the AF when back at storage. Peter, a mirror also works great on the drawer below the oven to see what’s happening at the latch/release. Easier then the back position. Seems the dealer didn’t actually replace the broken slide latch as requested, but just re-installed the drawer. another demerit! Thanks for the thumb/finger connecting tip…makes perfect sense…snap...done.

[OTRA Have you checked to see if your lavatory sink drains into the black water holding tank by any chance] Ya know, looking at the plumbing plan I believe you’re correct but will have to verify. I was so focused on draining/blowing out the lines …. I couldn’t get the drawer out (Grrrrr) to drain the pump/line as you suggested. With the mirror I was finally able to see the release challenge and eventually g on to the pump. Simply forgot. I’ll follow up, however I must say when the toilet as open and I was pouring AF down the throat, I didn’t hear any excess AF from the vanity trap draining in the BW tank.

Thanks everyone for the storage advice. We’re standing pat for now and hopeful for some continued winter use. Advice appreciated...still plenty of winter left.


20-footers rock!

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