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Old 10-22-2015, 03:54 AM   #323
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Update on the pump situation --

I winterized the fresh water system, including running the pump dry and catching its output in a small towel, removing the filter assembly and blowing the supply line clear (by mouth) to send any water back into the fresh water tank (tank and pluming drains in back storage area all open). I also blew into the pump's discharge line in case any water remained, and a small amount did seem to come out of the cold water drain in/under the rear storage area.

I fabricated some 1" diameter dampener pad "washers" consisting of two layers of computer mouse pad material plus one felt furniture glide about 3/16" thick (top layer). Used longer SS pan head screws through existing steel washers on top of pump rubber grommets/feet. Tightened screws down and left about 1/8" slop/play vertically to minimize transfer of vibration through shaft of screw into ply floor below. The pump is pretty stable in this space, as the supply and discharge hoses are well clamped to the floor, so the vertical play is acceptable IMO as the screws are solidly in the ply floor.

The work above was done after I had winterized the water system, so I could not test it for noise. A crimped electrical connection let loose while I was juggling things around to get the new "washers" under the pump, so I will have to fix this before testing the pump's noise level. Depending on the forecast I may do this soon, and re-winterize the system. I have not dumped the holding tanks yet, so the winterizing dry run has been a good learning experience and investment IMO.

On the following thread, there are some suggestions and alternative pump possibilities to be checked out:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f163...mp-139285.html

I mentioned some of the pump alternatives in an earlier post here too.

In my opinion, the 4048 pump in my 2014 FC20 is larger than needed, especially if a smaller shower head will work (per Moflash in the other thread). Indeed I have seen references online to the 4048 pump being a "multi-fixture" pump (4.0 GPM ?) which IMO: is overkill in our 20' coaches; wastes potable water; shortens boondocking time; and requires more frequent grey water dumps.

All TBD at this point, until I get the 4048 running again. If I do get another smaller pump, I may mount it, and an accumulator in the rear storage area on a ply base over on the right (curb) side as mentioned earlier to TCwheels. Maybe this entire platform could be removed for winterization if planned out ahead of time?

PS -- No feedback from Support on the photo attachment problem, but I did find other older threads suggesting that this has happened before, and been corrected obviously, so I will hang tight and post photos when possible.
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Old 10-22-2015, 04:15 AM   #324
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Hello fellow 20-foot Airstream owners! I am glad to have found this thread and to see the huge amount of discussion on it over the past year. I've owned my 2007 20-foot Safari (one prior owner) for one year now and am very happy with it. I haven't taken it very far, but did stay in it for seven weeks this summer at a campground while in the midst of some other moving around. I'll be in touch!
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Old 10-22-2015, 04:19 AM   #325
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Here is the Oxygenics shower head mentioned (I think) by Moflash in that other thread:

¬Ľ Fury‚„Ę RV Handheld Oxygenics

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...r-nickel/83903

Don't see an Amazon listing for the Fury RV model.

PS -- is the photo attachment process still working for everyone else?

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Old 10-22-2015, 04:23 AM   #326
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Welcome Marty! We hope to make it up your way next year. In my previous 25' I got to Maine twice and PEI once, both great locations, although the black fly season can be challenging!

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Old 10-22-2015, 06:28 AM   #327
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PS -- is the photo attachment process still working for everyone else?

Thanks,

Peter

Don't know why you're having this issue. Mine's still working....
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Old 10-22-2015, 06:29 AM   #328
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Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore, BTW!
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Old 10-22-2015, 06:31 AM   #329
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Thanks, still NG on the photo attachment FYI.
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Old 10-22-2015, 11:06 PM   #330
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Hey Peter, thanks for the info. An accumulator tank makes perfect sense. It just never occurred to me re an AS. Youíre right, weíre all going down the same road and friendly folks with experience and knowledge is at every bend.



Gotchya on the drawer and BR access plate. Iíll give your directions a try this weekend and maybe the winterization run through as well. Thanks for the advice! I look forward to the pump pictures and will attempt the same in return, yes weíve got the same model BTW great info too on your pump dampening efforts and like the high density foam w/felt material install.


I followed your earlier link I just figured out the avatar but need to try the pictures again as I keep getting upload error messages when trying to post a picture of the rig.

Blue Highway. I grabbed the first G search and inserted the link without listening to itÖ canít disagree. I like the CD solo version on Tennessee Moon tho. If you like Chet like we do, try Neck and Neck with Mark Knophler. Maybe a little schmaltzy banter but fine guitar work by both.


For those who havenít converted the fans, here is another option to the Silenx spec. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516/questions-about-the-dometic-refrigerator-in-our-flying-cloud 107412.html posted #8 by Dave-Nancy, a fellow ASírs from EUG that I have been talking to. I like the double ball bearings setup.

Welcome to the thread Marty. We hope to make it up your way eventually!

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p.s. Nice photo TC. Look like a nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:49 AM   #331
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Thanks Bob,

Reassuring in a sense that you are also having photo attachment problems, but looking forward to them being cleared up.

I had seen that other thread about the fridge fan, and wondered if you knew Dave and Nancy. Here is a better link BTW:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...ud-107412.html

Will check out Neck and Neck.

Thanks,

Peter

PS -- That other thread continues to have good ideas about minimizing pump noise:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f163...mp-139285.html

PS2 -- Yee Ha !!!

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Old 10-23-2015, 03:27 AM   #332
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OT -- PS3 from PBS in 1987 -- nice . . .

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Old 10-26-2015, 09:31 AM   #333
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The photo attachment issue is getting some attention FYI:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f138...ml#post1701974

Hopefully it will be resolved soon.
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:58 AM   #334
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Does anyone here have a brass valve under the fresh water tank, like the one pictured here?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...ml#post1702138

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Like DW wild child says ,our fridge trim pops off all the time .This trip out i'm going to try double sided tape (carpet tape) . fairly strong grip and not permanent . As for discussing other airstream models in this thread ,I started it to share what we are learning and enjoying about this size ,and style .Everybody is welcome ! as long as you stay on topic in general ,that's just polite in any forum . back to the fridge problem ,we should start talking specific models ,and see if there are other discussions on airforum pertaining to our shared problem

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Miss your contributions....hoping as the originator of this "20 Footer Thread" you jump back on board!
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:39 AM   #336
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Mazoolah,
Miss your contributions....hoping as the originator of this "20 Footer Thread" you jump back on board!
Not sure if this was a hint for me to get back on-topic, but as I said in Post 301, I would be very happy to start a new thread(s) on the various issues: pump, fridge fan, winterizing, etc.).

Personally, I really LIKE the way this particular thread focuses on the exact model we have, as even a so-called "off-topic" post can get me looking for, or proactively forestalling perhaps, a problem. As well, the wandering-about with music links fits the spirit of being On The Road Again ["OTRA"] IMO, but obviously everyone will feel differently.

Mazoolah, please feel free to chime in, as should everyone else who has an opinion.

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