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Old 06-03-2015, 07:38 PM   #127
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Congrats!

Congratulations on your new 20'! And congrats on finding the TP holder - a very important middle of the night detail.
We sleep at the other end of bed to avoid the magazine rack and have a better view of the tv.
It's a great unit - enjoy!
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:49 PM   #128
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Hi idroba. I quite agree about the divider and accordionslide in the 20. I plan to remove it from my 2007 Safari 20 along with some other planned changes.

Did you run into any tricky fasteners when you extracted yours. Love to know.
In my 2014 FC the divider was held to the little side wall with about 5 wood screws which you can see if you push back the last fold where it attaches. The upper ceiling track was also put in with wood screws (yes, into the aluminum) which you can see if you look up into the track. The holes in the aluminum ceiling are quite small and can be drilled out to 1/8 inch and fake rivets put in the holes, or, you can do as I did and just leave them in the ceiling. Mine are virtually invisible with all the other rivets and reflections in the shiny metal.

Your somewhat older unit might be a little different from mine but I am sure you can figure it out. It is a worthwhile thing to remove. A cleaning of the shiny metal ceiling with windex removed the dirt/finish differences under the track and you cannot see where mine was at all now.
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Old 06-03-2015, 09:48 PM   #129
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I actually like the divider...obviously in the minority! We might switch ends of the bed, but we love the LED reading lights at the "head" end.


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Old 06-04-2015, 12:19 PM   #130
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I love myFC 20'. It's exactly the right size for one person who likes to cook and a small dog. Still learning to gauge grey water tank, though. : )
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Old 06-04-2015, 08:48 PM   #131
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I love myFC 20'. It's exactly the right size for one person who likes to cook and a small dog. Still learning to gauge grey water tank, though. : )

Us too! Had our first experience last weekend using the shower pan as a visual aid for grey water tank level....we'll be watching the electronic monitor more closely from now on....😱


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Old 06-05-2015, 05:52 AM   #132
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As I came out of a 16' Bambi I'll have to watch the Grey water as well. It will fill a lot slower...
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Old 06-05-2015, 07:43 AM   #133
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Ducted air is only on 25' and longer.
Not any longer....currently I'm looking.

"Airstream 2016 Model Year Enhancements - Ducked Air 19, 20, 23"
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f483...-a-136071.html


"A presentation doc in pdf" (from the dealers meeting I guess)

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Old 06-05-2015, 09:44 AM   #134
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I had the shower tell ME when I had a 16' Bambi, Renderit and TCWheels! It was an unhappy notice, since it was a wet bath. Now with 20' Flying Cloud, I still take advantage of parks with showers when they're there! Dry camping, I do paper plates or dishes OUTSIDE in two
tubs that collapse into flat storage. : )
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My philosophy is probably not the norm, but I have not used a campground shower since we got our 20. I'll lug water and use the blue-boy to empty the gray water, but I'm using my shower! That's part of my enjoyment of our awesome Airstream...


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Old 06-06-2015, 05:14 AM   #136
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We've dry camped on several occasions for several nights each time with our 20. Water discipline sure is important where the grey tank is concerned. One trick that has worked well for us is to use a dish pan whenever possible to catch sink water that would otherwise go down the drain. Empty it into the toilet instead since the black tank fills much more slowly.
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Old 06-06-2015, 06:13 AM   #137
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We've dry camped on several occasions for several nights each time with our 20. Water discipline sure is important where the grey tank is concerned. One trick that has worked well for us is to use a dish pan whenever possible to catch sink water that would otherwise go down the drain. Empty it into the toilet instead since the black tank fills much more slowly.

Agree with this tip! Following our three month southwest winter trip this year we camped in over thirty different campgrounds with only a few with full hookups. Recently purchased Sea to Summit collapsible 10 liter sink to assist with water management understanding "kitchen water usage" is notable our main grey water producer. http://www.seatosummit.com/product/?...=1&o2=1&o3=194
The Sea to Summit sink has neat little carry handles for easy lifting and transporting to carry grey water to empty into the toilet. We are still considering a portable water caddy (blue boy) to lengthen number of camp nights without driving to dump but not yet convinced this addition is the answer since the majority of campgrounds we have stayed would have been very challenging to cart a full caddy to the dump. Even though they come in many sizes, storage of these units during travel is the main drawback.
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I use an Oxygenics shower head. It uses half the water of the stock shower head.
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We use campground facilities for everything possible all the time. Showers, bathrooms, etc. Old tent campers so it is the "norm" for us. That way we don't have to concern ourselves with smells from the septic etc. We generally only use the throne for liquid waste. I like the idea of using the dishwater to toilet though. For us that will really extend a dry stay.

A subject I have not seen covered here, anybody out there have clever solutions to the toilet being set up for giants? I prefer my feet touching during loading patterns...
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Speaking of dry camping; when filling the fresh water tank in the back of the trailer there is a lot of water that pours out while filling. I'm thinking of making some sort of bib so the water runs off over rear bumper onto the ground.
Does anyone have this problem while filling their fresh water tank? What are you using to prevent water from coming out while filling?


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