Is it best to purchase a new AS locally?

[FlashSilver]

Originally Posted by spenfolder

The dealer in Salt Lake used to be Ardell Brown and they had a great Airstream service dept. They sold out to Camping World, and now they don't seem to know much, or care much about Airstream service.

Stan
Salt Lake City

The service personnel have not changed, so they know how to fix an AS. But you are right about management, they don't seem to care about AS, or even want to sell one. I went in to learn about the Eddie Bauer, and the salesman did all he could to dissuade me from buying another AS, and showed me all the other models that offered, according to him, "better value". And he knew I had bought an AS there two years previously. (btw, the interior of the SOBs are really ugly, aren't they?)

I buy locally whenever I can. I shop for value rather than price, and the fact that my money is staying home is intrinsic value. But if I have to travel for quality service, like Gene, then I'm happy to do it. What else do I have to do? The warranty is a non issue, the warranty is valid at any dealer or service center, not just where the unit was bought. Warranty work is very profitable for the dealers and a good dealer will do quality work for anyone who comes in, and is glad to get the business. I can't imagine a dealer giving scheduling preference to a local over a "drive in". The drive in is usually an emergency,while the local is at home sleeping in his own bed. I would expect my dealer to work on the drive in before mine. Can you imagine being 1,000 miles from home with a major problem and being told work couldn't commence for a week because of local appointments?

I was a Toyota dealer in a prior life, and although the business is not exactly like that of an AS dealer, it is close enough for government work. I valued my repeat customers and gave them incentives to bring me their cars for service. I gave them sporting event tickets, Christmas presents, and birthday cards, but never better service than anyone else who trusted me to fix their cars.

[Mikethefixit]

My personal opinion only is BUY LOCAL if you can. Be able to reach out and touch what you are buying. If not local find something you can buy NO OVER a DAYS DRIVE from you. Some dealers are really not that friendly is what I found. They only want to make a sale. Thier service depts maybe great though,so it might be of benifit to get to know them.
If and when you buy ASK QUESTIONS HERE FIRST before ya plank down da money.
Lots of expertise here just ask.
GOOD LUCK and WELCOME to AIRFORUMS
ROGER

[Steamy1]

Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

Steamy,

Is the door hard to operate all the time.... hitched, un-hitched, stab's up & down, tongue high/low?

Our door can be difficult if the body is stressed, not level and too much pressure on the stabs and tongue jack causing the body to twist. Doesn't take much.

Bob

Bob,
When shutting the door from the inside, I have to almost slam it to latch, and when closing form the outside, push really hard. And it does not seem to seal against the weather stripping. I have tried adjusting the screen door, which helped it close easier, and have tried various weather stripping metheods. I guess I am trying to achieve a snug fit that resists cold air from leaking around the door and does not feel so hard to latch. I thought it would be a good idea for someone who has experience working with AS and knows all of the little tricks to work on it.

It does not seem to make a difference if the stabalizing jacks are down or stowed. I just do not like having to slam the door with what seems to me to be excessive force.

Thanks for your interest.

[extiger]

I live in Texas and purchased my AS from a well known Florida dealer in 2011. Very easy to deal with, signiificantly easier to deal with and cheaper than Texas dealers. Pre purchase inspection was not a problem, camped next door the first night and went back the next day with some small items.

AS is currently at a Texas dealer getting some minor warranty work done. Warranty work finished and taken care of. Currently waiting on a flag box from JC. So far service has been smooth. They contacted JC, received authorization and worked thru the list. They could care less where it was purchased.

As far of the door issue, there is a video on Utube somewhere that may help. Our screen door was a little out of line and after watching the video, fixed it in about 5 minutes.

[DMT]

Originally Posted by Steamy1

Bob,
When shutting the door from the inside, I have to almost slam it to latch, and when closing form the outside, push really hard. And it does not seem to seal against the weather stripping. I have tried adjusting the screen door, which helped it close easier, and have tried various weather stripping metheods. I guess I am trying to achieve a snug fit that resists cold air from leaking around the door and does not feel so hard to latch. I thought it would be a good idea for someone who has experience working with AS and knows all of the little tricks to work on it.

It does not seem to make a difference if the stabalizing jacks are down or stowed. I just do not like having to slam the door with what seems to me to be excessive force.

Thanks for your interest.

I have the same issue with the exterior door ( not the screen door - the outside door). Is seems like the hinge side of the door sits too far in the frame. Maybe if I shimmed the hinges out? Does anybody have the link for the YouTube video mentioned in this thread?

[ROBERT CROSS]

Whack carefully at your own risk....and NEVER in front of the customer.
Whacking procedure starts @ 3:44.
Bob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7-PprGeESE

[DMT]

Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

Whack carefully at your own risk....and NEVER in front of the customer.
Whacking procedure starts @ 3:44.
Bob

So......not exactly the method one would presume. Priced like a Lamborghini, but assembled like a Lada I suppose. Thanks for the link Bob. I'm going to have to think about this. Serious harm may come to me if I show up with a taped-up hammer and a block of wood to start pounding on her prized trailer. She may apply some serious pounding on me instead. Strong willed women in this neck of the woods, btw. Maybe the door is ok as it is.

Watching the video I am aghast at the noise level and apparent lack of hearing protection by the presenter and the one worker in a few of the frames. Hopefully this is an anomaly and they have adequate HSEQ standards. Don't know how AS would afford the insurance premiums otherwise.

Don

[Steamy1]

Bob,
Thanks for the video!! Just viewed it tonight. Have been out of the country and just returned, so did not have a chance to see it until now.

I'll try a low level adjustment as shown and see if I can improve the door closing. I have adjusted the screen door in the manner described and have been able to stop it from hitting the bolt.

Any major adjustment does not look like it is for the faint of heart. Maybe a little tinkering will work.

Again, thanks for the follow-up!

Steamy1

[ROBERT CROSS]

Don't get too nervous guy's.....

Concise whacking has been used in the auto repair business for as long as I can remember.

cirri-us though...it is the quickest way to align the post style door striker, when the mfg. see's fit not to provide a locking adjustment plate....... along with closing the door on a two-by-four.

Whack gently though, it's alwayz harder to de-whack than whack.

Bob

[starcraft]

They got bought out by Camping World. Yes they have no AS to look at new or used. When I saw one on KSL we quickly pulled the trigger and bought it. There parts department is wack, not sure if girl behind counter has mental issues. I played along for 15minutes to 30 minutes waiting then lost all patience. I now order all my parts online. You can special order trailer through them just the way you want it but $$$$$ going to cost you big money. Hope to heck your not talking about Yota dealer in sandy, those shiats owe me money I am sending gwedo to collect. OO I bet you are Menlove dealership they were pretty dam good bought Tacoma from them for great deal.

[unremitting7]

Originally Posted by Travel Bird

I live in Denver but, have been checking across the country for our new AS. Is it best to stay local so one develops a relationship with a dealer when it comes time for repairs et al.? Any suggestions for honest, knowledgeable and reputable dealerships is greatly appreciated.

Travel Bird,
For what my opinion is worth, you can be the judge. I don't own an Airstream but have been researching/looking for my 'ideal' Airstream for ~ 2 years. I have read most ads on this site and others. I have talked with dealers around the GREATER Ky area [really no dealers in Ky but the States around Ky].
Two weeks ago, I went to Jackson Ctr about 3 hours up the road and took the tour, asked [too many questions ] and picked up all the pamphlets etc. Even got a little 'retour' because I wanted more details.
Depending on whether you go M-Thurs OR Friday, you can get up close and personal with diff models of Airstreams in various stages of finish. You see all the processes that go into making the AIRSTREAM of today. There are new things, materials, devices, gizmos and quality checks added ALL the time e.g. LED lighting throughout, metal cutting techniques which reduces ragged edges, interior design changes...I could go on.
In summary, IF you want a NEW or OLD Airstream, you will never understand what they are and aren't until you visit the plant and see them made, ask questions about the processes, ask the 'people' whether it's better to buy new or rennovate an older model etc.
Most importantly, when I returned from 'the tour' and spoke with the same dealers [most of them], I realized I knew MORE about Airstreams than they did.
It's the same thing with my truck [Dodge dually]. Whenever I take it to the dealer OR my fav oil change place, I watch what they do and don't do and ask them everything about the fluid level ...I just went yesterday for oil change which is supposed to include all fluids. I knew the young man did NOT check the power steering fluid. Called him on it when I was checking out. It was on 'min line.' So, they get poor evaluation

Put it this way....if you are going to spend big bucks for top of the line product, NEVER trust anyone else to take your purchase i.e. your home as seriously as you do [or should].

Here's my two cents..... for me, I plan to get a recent USED model. I know how it was built, what bugs it might have and what needs to be done. I know what I want to add and what is not essential.

If money is no object, design one with Jackson Ctr and have it built the way you want it. You can watch it being built if you don't mind the cornfields of Ohio. If you do it that way, the 'dealer' won't matter in the long run. btw, you can get a fairly good idea from Jackson Ctr what dealers are 'good' and what dealers 'need improvement.'


DISCLAIMER I do not work for Airstream nor am I a dealer. I am receiving no financial renumeration for my opinion.
Just like great products.

[ROBERT CROSS]

7,

Hellava first post!!!!

That ain't two cents....more like ten bucks worth.

Keep up the good work...

Bob

[FlashSilver]

Originally Posted by starcraft

They got bought out by Camping World.

I went to the Utah RV Show in Sandy last week. It was packed. Camping World was well represented with a large space filled with white box like trailers in a prime location. I asked the manager whether they still represented AS. With a grin he said he did but had none in stock. I asked him why and he said " No one wants an Airstream anymore". I replied, " Not with salesmen like you selling them". To his credit he didn't answer back,he just walked away. He was the second Camping World salesman to discourage me from even showing interest in an AS.

Given recent bad reports on Camping World's service department, I think AS owners in Utah are now high and dry. Too bad, because Arlen Brown was pretty good. Although you can still special order AS through Camping World, I don't know why anyone would, given their anti AS attitude. You can special order through any dealer in the world. Now service is a bigger problem, but I travel enough in the summer to visit good dealers elsewhere when service is required. Maybe AS will get smart and pull the dealership and give it to someone who understands AS and wants to sell them.

[CrawfordGene]

I think Airstream stopped financing the trailers for the dealers several years ago and thus, there is less reason for some dealers to carry many or any.

It may be true in some places people don't want Airstreams. They are into giant MH's and 5th wheels.

Gene