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Old 08-31-2017, 06:26 PM   #15
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The form listed above worked and I was issued a title. Thank you everyone for your assistance!!
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Old 08-31-2017, 06:29 PM   #16
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Great news, thanks for the update! Could you describe the title and any conditions? I guess they cleared the VIN as not a stolen vehicle? Thanks,

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Old 08-31-2017, 07:52 PM   #17
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I took it to our Michigan SOS (DMV). The form used is a "last resort", only supposed to be used after a bonded title and numerous other scenarios were tried. However, I told them the scenario (unwilling seller, won't give bill of sale) that the statewide SOS (800 line) told me to have this exact form, along with a NADA Guide to show it's worth under $2500 and over 10 years old. The NADA only went back to 1966, not 1963 but they found that sufficient. However, the Manager was hassling, stating that I never should have bought it without the Bill of Sale and that if I wanted a Title (grantd that it cleared), I would need to take it to a weight station to confirm the weight. They agreed to run a NCIC (National Crime Information Center) check to see if it was stolen and told me to come back in one hour. Upon return, a different woman helped me and looked up the NCIC, then asked for my ID. I thought it was either 1) stolen or 2) she was issuing me a title. Then, she proceeded to ask if I wanted to put plates on it today and I said absolutely but asked if I was granted a title and she confirmed that I was. However, she needed the weight which the former Manager said I needed from a weight station, but I already had a printed copy of the weight from an Airstream website and that was sufficient for her. After about 10 minutes and $275, I was issues a title to be delivered in 2 weeks and a license plate. The title has no conditions, it's a clear title. All that's left is to insure it. I've read today that you have to find the right person to push this through and apparently I did.... I'm happy to answer any other questions!
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:53 PM   #18
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Congratulations!!!!! I wish our state had that process! We look forward to seeing your progress.
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:29 PM   #19
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I'm not getting anywhere with the seller. She thinks I'm seeking a title so I've had to explain that I'm seeking a bill of sale and what that entails. She still isn't understanding my request.

I'm trying to do an online VIN search but everything is requesting a 17 digit Vin, which Airstream didn't start making until the 80's. Any insight on how to do an online vin search?

I called local law enforcement but they were no assistance without the trailer actually being brought to the department.
Not sure what is involved in registration in Michigan, but with a bill of sale you can register a trailer in Maine, and then transfer the registration to your own state. I did this twice importing vintage travel trailers into Canada from New York state and there were no problems either time. In both cases the owner had no title or registration, but provided me with a bill of sale. I went through Staab Agency for the Maine registration. Maine does not require you to be a resident in order to register a trailer there. I used my in-laws' Michigan address.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:41 AM   #20
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Thanks for the details, and so glad for you that it worked out!

Have a great Labor Day weekendf.

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I took it to our Michigan SOS (DMV). The form used is a "last resort", only supposed to be used after a bonded title and numerous other scenarios were tried. However, I told them the scenario (unwilling seller, won't give bill of sale) that the statewide SOS (800 line) told me to have this exact form, along with a NADA Guide to show it's worth under $2500 and over 10 years old. The NADA only went back to 1966, not 1963 but they found that sufficient. However, the Manager was hassling, stating that I never should have bought it without the Bill of Sale and that if I wanted a Title (grantd that it cleared), I would need to take it to a weight station to confirm the weight. They agreed to run a NCIC (National Crime Information Center) check to see if it was stolen and told me to come back in one hour. Upon return, a different woman helped me and looked up the NCIC, then asked for my ID. I thought it was either 1) stolen or 2) she was issuing me a title. Then, she proceeded to ask if I wanted to put plates on it today and I said absolutely but asked if I was granted a title and she confirmed that I was. However, she needed the weight which the former Manager said I needed from a weight station, but I already had a printed copy of the weight from an Airstream website and that was sufficient for her. After about 10 minutes and $275, I was issues a title to be delivered in 2 weeks and a license plate. The title has no conditions, it's a clear title. All that's left is to insure it. I've read today that you have to find the right person to push this through and apparently I did.... I'm happy to answer any other questions!
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