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Old 08-04-2017, 07:23 AM   #15
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I saw the partially built prototype at Jackson Center last month. Looks interesting. The fiberglass shell concept always appealed to me: less opportunities for leaks.
It's smart business. You have to appeal to the up and coming generations or die out. The challenge will be for airstream to differentiate itself from others producing similar trailers like Scamp cuz I'm sure the AS price will be 2x.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:27 AM   #16
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Have you ever stayed in a sailboat? Can you say "off gassing".
Maybe if they gel coat the interior that would alleviate the out gassing problem? I would think there are ways to deal with it.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:30 AM   #17
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Only if Airstream price match the current European fiberglass caravans.

It will be interesting, as next month the UK business is taken over my Swift Caravan Group (who already make and sell caravans (travel trailers) and motorhomes) and if the Nest were to come over it would be selling directly against their own Basecamp model....which lists at $21K (before discounts).

It's a little different in mainland Europe where business is already very good for the narrow body European versions of the classic bodies, and where the Basecamp is already going through the approval process.

I would say that the Airstream badge is not the selling point here, the classic style is (imho) so I expect there to be very few sales of the Nest unless it sells competitively.


Interesting, I'm not familiar with the market there. I only know that they generally love camping and most trailers are on the smaller side.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:45 AM   #18
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Most are in the 22-28ft range, the big difference is the weight. The top of the range, best equipment, longest (28ft) current Swift model is under 4200lb, so can be pulled by a midi-sized estate (1.9TDI VW Passat is one of the highest rated TV here).

Even among the European spec Airstreams the most common TV seems to be a Land Rover Defender, even the guys doing trips of several thousand miles are using those.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:26 AM   #19
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I saw the partially built prototype at Jackson Center last month. Looks interesting. The fiberglass shell concept always appealed to me: less opportunities for leaks.
It's smart business. You have to appeal to the up and coming generations or die out. The challenge will be for airstream to differentiate itself from others producing similar trailers like Scamp cuz I'm sure the AS price will be 2x.
I haven't been to the factory in a few years. Were they building this in the large building where the aluminum bodies are assembled or across the street where they put together the Interstates?

Good point about pricing. It will be interesting to see how much the Airstream brand is worth as there are a number of small lower cost fiberglass trailers such as Scamp and Casita. And then there is the pricier Oliver as well. Thor must view the Airstream name as having substantial value beyond signifying the iconic aluminum because they always could have had a different subsidiary build it. Glad to hear that.
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On the topic of fiberglass. We have a Northern Lite truck camper in addition to our Airstream. I believe it has a significantly higher level of care in its construction. Fewer openings and joints for leaks, and far better quality assurance. Virtually no problems.

I really like my Airstream, but if Northern Lite or Oliver built a 25-27 foot trailer, I would probably buy one. It wouldn't hurt Thor a bit to spend a little time looking at a line of high quality fiberglass trailers.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:34 AM   #21
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You really can't compare the moulded construction of the Nest with the fiberglass class A motor homes. I had a '94 LY pusher and it suffered from leaky roof seams and delamination. Moulded tub type trailers such as the Boler, Escape, Trillium etc don't have these issues. I have heard of the occasional case where frame corrosion caused the A-frame to break off, generally in older units.
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:18 AM   #22
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Not even an AS owner yet, but feel that pain. Have been on a long research timeline 2-3 yrs, to find the trailer that best fits my wife and my expectations. Have been close to selecting an Oliver, Bigfoot or Escape. All quality trailers to my thinking, but tough to find back east.
Am close to being an AS owner and a large part of that decision is based on the members of this board. I don't think it is a $$ thing, since AS come in all age packages and prices, but it appears to be a mindset, or perhaps a shiny aluminum thing...

The fiberglass mold folks are also a good group from my brief experience with them, but different in a way I cannot explain. Perhaps its being tradition minded? Not sure.

If I were part of the Thor mngmt, I would fully endore this decision to add a fiberglass line, quality trailers, less leaks and good price points for the manufacturer.
BUT, I wouldnt brand them as Airstreams. That thought has to be linked to looking to get a huge margin based on the goodwill in the name, but it will also detract from the name, by changing the ownership profile. Just my 2 cents.
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The challenge will be for airstream to differentiate itself from others producing similar trailers like Scamp cuz I'm sure the AS price will be 2x.
It will say "Airstream" on it!
2X? No, 4X!

I guess they noticed the Oliver, which IMO could be a hit if they made it wider inside. Also, the Scamp, Casita, and others have a place. And fiberglass doesn't leak, but it does get gelcoat crazing and fades terribly in the sun.

Will Harley start making scooters? After DaVinci did the Mona Lisa, he didn't move into velvet Elvis's to try and fill every niche..
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It will say "Airstream" on it!
2X? No, 4X!

I guess they noticed the Oliver, which IMO could be a hit if they made it wider inside. Also, the Scamp, Casita, and others have a place. And fiberglass doesn't leak, but it does get gelcoat crazing and fades terribly in the sun.

Will Harley start making scooters? After DaVinci did the Mona Lisa, he didn't move into velvet Elvis's to try and fill every niche..
Harley Davidson has already made scooters. This one sold at Barrett-Jackson. The photo is of a different instance of a Topper.
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I'll be honest - if AS did a molded fiberglass version of their aluminum trailers (like my 27FB Cloud) I'd still buy it. Not sure what would work from the "semi-monocoque" construction perspective - perhaps a carbon fiber shell? No matter - I love my trailer

The nest looks cool but isn't my thing.
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Harley Davidson has already made scooters...Topper.
Holy Smoke!
I remember when I was 14 I wanted a Cushman so bad...
Last time I did Daytona Bike week, I discovered they're in again. $3500 for a restored one.
I did ride a HD bike years ago, a 250cc, single cylinder motorcycle. It was cool!
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I think Wally would like the Nest. He was an innovator and liked quality.
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I think Wally would like the Nest. He was an innovator and liked quality.
“Let’s not make changes, let’s make only improvements." -Wally Byam

Changes are innovation.
Improvements are refinement.

I don't think Wally would approve.
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