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Old 07-14-2011, 03:56 PM   #1
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Question about the International Rally

Can someone help me figure out if my 58 caravaner went on the original international rally? It has a ghost sticker of 4660 and I can just barely see another ghost under that one. It also has the round international sticker above it and below it has Wally byam's caravan. international 4660 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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Old 07-14-2011, 04:04 PM   #2
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The image you attached shows the ghost image of the round WCBBI membership emblem and two membership numbers - what look to me to be 4660 & 1784. I would image the 1784 is the first owner's membership number and the 4660 is a subsequent owner. These are the stickers most WBCCI members have on their trailers whether or not they have attended an International Rally or been on a Caravan.

It does, however, also show the rectangular sticker at the bottom that indicates that one (or both?) of the previous owners may have been on a caravan. To find out which one (or ones) you would need to find an old membership directory from the late 50's early 60's and look up the membership numbers to see what caravans they were on. There are several AirForums members that have old directories that may be able to help you out.

Check out this WBCCI "big red numbers" thread for more info on similar inqueries.

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Can someone help me figure out if my 58 caravaner went on the original international rally? It has a ghost sticker of 4660 and I can just barely see another ghost under that one. It also has the round international sticker above it and below it has Wally byam's caravan. international 4660 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I couldn't figure out how to add the photo here but the link to it is above.
I don't know of any way to prove or disprove that your Caravanner was at the first International Rally in 1958 because the club did not retain any attendance records that I am aware of.

But I can say your Caravanner did not have number 4660 on it if it did attend that rally because that number was not originally assigned until 1962. If it was at the 1958 International Rally it would have then had a number less than 2290, the highest number in the 1958 Membership Directory. And given that 2290 was the maximum number at the end of 1958, I can pretty much assume that the highest number at the International Rally in July would have been something less than 2000.

I went and looked at your Flicker photos, and I agree with Shari that it looks like there is the number 1784 under the 4660! That would at least open the possibility that your Caravanner was at the 1958 International Rally . . . BUT . . .

I looked at the rest of the Flicker photos and noticed that your Caravanner has 1959 wheel well shape and a 1959 serial number (22D-0122), making it a 1959 Caravanner, not a 1958 Caravanner. Additionally, the serial number plaque has the number 1058 on it meaning that your Caravanner was built in October 1958 (very appropriate for a 1959 Caravanner). This clearly means it could NOT have been at the 1958 International Rally in July 1958.

Sorry that I ended up proving the opposite of what you hoped. Enjoy your Caravanner anyway!
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