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Old 11-18-2012, 11:43 PM   #71
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Joe, It does seem like everything takes 3x the time you think it will. You have a 7 whole months until International, no problem I'm looking forward to seeing yours and the other ATW trailers.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:40 PM   #72
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Spent a little time starting to remake the rear floor using the old floor as a template for shape and hole locations. Had to guesstimate the perimeter where the old floor was rotted away. (Actually, I flipped the floor over and used the other corner to establish the missing part of the curve.)

As noted before, the worst of the floor rot was below the black tank. It also happened to be near the area where the rear section of the curbside main rail was replaced.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:13 AM   #73
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The curved ends were my toughest part. The front had some wood that I used for a template. The rear was nuttin' but dust. I had to use the C channels and one of them was bent! Luckly the two sides were the same (or very similar) curves.

I'm guessing that winter is slowing you down a bit?

On Edit: the frame repairs look great!
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #74
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joe, how is progress going on Cramer?
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Thanks for asking.

Progress has been slow since about Thanksgiving. After thanksgiving, Lorrie and I took a little vacation, including a visit with Deane Cramer, the son of the original owners of our ATW Airstream. He owned this trailer for many years after his parents It was great to meet Deane and learn a little more about his parents and their travels and Deane's own travels with our Airstream.

Then cold weather and family festivities around Chrismas limited progress in December. In early January I removed a little more of the interior, including the water heater and roof lockers. I took a few photos during this work, but nothing worth posting. I also ordered a new water heater, furnace, and few miscellaneous other parts. I'll probably post more about these parts when I get to the point of installing them.

Then things got really tough starting in late January. Lorrie's dad declined and we spent a lot of time in Hospice ending with his eventual passing.

Then I had a two week business trip to China and Korea. During that trip I got a call that my father had suffered an aneurysm and had hours to days to live. Not good news when you are on the opposite side of the globe. I cut my trip short and flew straight to Louisville, KY where my dad was in the hospital. I spent several days with him. It was great to see my dad and talk with him even though we knew surgery was not really an option and there could be no long term recovery without it. He rallied for a while, but eventually declined and finally passed this morning. We are now making funeral plans.

I guess it's been a tough start to 2013 with both Lorrie and I losing our fathers within weeks of each other. I look forward to when I have time to get back to really working on Cramer - maybe in a couple of weeks. At least by then the weather will be nicer.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:46 PM   #76
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Joe,

I'm so sorry for your loss and Lorrie's, that's really tough coming so close together. Hopefully the rebuild will be something to look forward to in the coming (warmer) months.

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oh my gosh. that's terrible news. I am so sorry to hear about both of your fathers. well, you and your wifes' fathers not both of YOUR ....you get the point.

I will look forward to future progress on cramer, and of course any of it's history that you uncover.
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Joe, so sorry to hear your sad news about your father and father in law. Its tough to loose a parent. My 86 yr old mother was diagnosed with Stage 4 Ovarian cancer 6 weeks ago and isnt tolerating chemo. Its hard feeling helpless.
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Very sorry about both of your losses.

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Sorry to hear about both you and Lorrie's loss. It sounds like they both had a full life.

I grew up in the Detroit area and know that warm weather will be here soon, hopefully just in time to make some progress on the trailer.

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Thanks everyone for the condolences. I would not normally have said anything, but when asked about restoration progress, I did not know how to explain the recent slow down without mentioning some of the reasons. Your kind comments are appreciated.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:45 PM   #82
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Time for an update. I have been back working on Cramer since late March, starting on just weekends, but also including weekday evenings lately.

This post will provide some progress photos from the last month or so as follows. I removed the rest of the last two 4' sheets of the old floor. The frame that was exposed when that floor came out was in good shape, only requiring a coat of paint. I did decide that it would be best to repair the belly wrap behind the streetside wheel well before reinstalling the floor. I then insulated the furnace duct and stapled insulation to the floor outboard of the main rails, because it would be too tough to do so after floor installation.
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The attached photos show some details of the rear floor installation. I bolted it to the cross members and outriggers using the elevator bolts from VTS. The perimeter floor channel was bolted to outriggers and the rearmost cross member using stainless bolts with lock nuts. In between the bolts, the floor channel was screwed down using stainless screws. All sections of floor channel were secured down through 1/8" thick aluminum bar stock to distribute the clamping force and make it stronger than when new in 1962. And speaking of floor channel, I made new floor channel for the rear using hand seamers to bend it to shape (the old channel was just too corroded to reuse).

I don't have photos, but I installed both 4' sections of the rear floor in "halves" so that it would slide under the floor channel. The "halves" were joined together with an underside backing board that was screwed and glued (with construction adhesive) to the floor for strength.

Today after work Lorrie helped me complete buck riveting the new floor channel to the shell. This completed the rear floor installation. The new floor is in and is completely bolted to the frame, and the shell is completely bolted and screwed to the floor and the shell is re-buck riveted to the new rear floor channel. The trailer has a much more solid feeling again when walking inside. Yeah!

P.S. Don't expect regular updates. I am using all my free time trying to somehow get this trailer back togather enough to be able to take it to the ATW Caravan 50th Anniversary Celebration at the WBCCI International Rally at the end of June. I am finding very little time lately for anything on my computer other than researching parts I need to buy and ordering them on-line.
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Very nice work Joe. It is a labor of love and it takes time to bring any restoration back to life. I am glad you are taking your time to do it right. Look forward to keeping up with our progress.
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