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Old 03-24-2009, 06:40 AM   #71
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perhaps the fact that Wally's tow vehicle is almost always in black and white photos has thrown some people off. Personally, when I look at the photos of his vehicle, I make a visual guess of red. I believe someone in florida has also done a recreation of one of the C2C tow vehicles and I have been requesting photos for it is for sale.

So Pee Wee, you have, a few times, made it obvious that the Internationals did not hold up to the abuses of the roads you were building. Which of the trucks did you prefer? Was one make better than the rest? Say someone had a 1962 and wanted to mate it up to a tow vehicle of the same era. Maybe like if it was a around the world trailer or a wantabe trailer for that caravan... what truck would you suggest?
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perhaps the fact that Wally's tow vehicle is almost always in black and white photos has thrown some people off. Personally, when I look at the photos of his vehicle, I make a visual guess of red. I believe someone in florida has also done a recreation of one of the C2C tow vehicles and I have been requesting photos for it is for sale.

So Pee Wee, you have, a few times, made it obvious that the Internationals did not hold up to the abuses of the roads you were building. Which of the trucks did you prefer? Was one make better than the rest? Say someone had a 1962 and wanted to mate it up to a tow vehicle of the same era. Maybe like if it was a around the world trailer or a wantabe trailer for that caravan... what truck would you suggest?
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The Fords, Chevrolet's had no problems. I believe we might of had a Dodge, and even a GMC.

The basic vehicles did fine. In fact, the one Land Rover did a great job of towing.

The Chevy Scout and Mechanic trucks were great vehicles.

I mentioned earlier that we had no vehicle that looked like the fire engine IH, this is true. However, I believe we had an IH that looked like a Suburban Carryall, that was red. Definitely not the style as shown in the picture.

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Here is a song from one of the several skits that were played out at the Nile Hilton, at our celebration of the end of the road from Cape Town to Cairo.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:27 AM   #73
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keep em coming Pee Wee, I am on the edge of my seat. I am so looking forward to meeting you on Wed next week. You inspired me to get a blue beret and I know love wearing it. Also Wally's Bubble X251 is going to be here tomorrow.
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You must have a couple of rooms full of those great archives. Keep 'em coming, indeed. Love this stuff. I sure wish I could be at CBR too but alas, its too far and I don't have the time available to trek across the country.

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This truck is now for sale on eBay, where it is confirmed to be a replica of the truck originally used by Wally Byam on the caravan, not the real vehicle:
[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Joe/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]

Here is a link to the current eBay auction:
eBay Motors: International Harvester (item 300306670076 end time Apr-15-09 18:33:49 PDT)
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This truck is now for sale on eBay, where it is confirmed to be a replica of the truck originally used by Wally Byam on the caravan, not the real vehicle:
[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Joe/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]

Here is a link to the current eBay auction:
eBay Motors: International Harvester (item 300306670076 end time Apr-15-09 18:33:49 PDT)
And it isn't true to the original. The color is wrong. And the door emblem is a creation of someone, but it never appeared in Africa. Most people know my fellings about the IH trucks used in Africa. I'm quite sure that if Wally had led additional Caravans, the IH would have been left off the roster.
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Scout Truck Interior Layout

I couldn't help myself, I just had to work up a 3D layout of the interior of PeeWee's Advanced Scout truck based on a preliminary that he provided earlier. There was also a canvas bunk that hung from the walls and ceiling above the couch. I have no idea what the fabric covering on the couch looked like but had to put something on it. There was also a German-made Valiant water heater that hung on the cabinet above the burners.

Man, does this look cramped for two people on an extended trip that covered a large continent. How did you ever do it?

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I couldn't help myself, I just had to work up a 3D layout of the interior of PeeWee's Advanced Scout truck based on a preliminary that he provided earlier. There was also a canvas bunk that hung from the walls and ceiling above the couch. I have no idea what the fabric covering on the couch looked like but had to put something on it. There was also a German-made Valiant water heater that hung on the cabinet above the burners.

Man, does this look cramped for two people on an extended trip that covered a large continent. How did you ever do it?

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Brad,

Wow!

The sinik was a smaller single sink.

The two burners were side by side.

The bunk bed was almost the same size as the bottom couch area. It was a rather large box with a mattress that hung by chains from the ceiling. Notice the window on the front of the living quarters. That provided the air for the top bunk when up. When down it was at an angle that gave the bottom portion a confortable seating. There was storage behind the top part, when down, to store our bedding. We used sleeping bags. There were no arm rests.

Don't go there. We didn't have to stand them (the sleeping bags) up in the corner with my black towels.

Above the stove was our instant water heater, and underneath the stove was our refer.

It is amazing to see "my 1959 - 1960" home come alive.

Brad you are great.

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We had roof lockers, I don't remeber their size. Every practical space had been utilized.
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Thanks PeeWee. I made a few adjustments based on your comments above. Are we getting close? Still can't imagine what it was like to have this as your home for that many months let alone sharing it with another person.

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There was no back to the bottom bed/sofa unless the bunk was lowered into place.

My sketch, you can tell I am an aimless line placer, may give you more info.

The box for the bunk was shallow enough to allow the cushion to stick over the edge. This overage allowed the bunk to make a more comfortable back for the sofa mode.

Both cushions were the same thickness.

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You're sketch really explained how the bunk worked because I just couldn't figure out how it would fold up towards the ceiling when it was curved. So folding down sure makes sense now. How's this look? Did the front of the couch actually connect or make contact with the left end of the galley cabinet and the chest of drawers on the other side or was there some room between them?

I'm really getting a good sense of the interior now.

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You're sketch really explained how the bunk worked because I just couldn't figure out how it would fold up towards the ceiling when it was curved. So folding down sure makes sense now. How's this look? Did the front of the couch actually connect or make contact with the left end of the galley cabinet and the chest of drawers on the other side or was there some room between them?

I'm really getting a good sense of the interior now.

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I don't really remember. There might have been a very slight space, but nothing of note.

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Pee Wee and Brad, thanks for making that old Scout Truck come back to life like. This has been one of my favorite history threads of all.
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