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Old 03-22-2009, 10:45 AM   #57
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...Overland to Norway?? Really??

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Back to the fascinating story on these unique vehicles. In referencing the plaque on the side of the Scout Vehicle, it says "Africa Near East (Bible Lands) Europe" as well as "South Africa Overland to Norway" but I've not heard any mention of if the vehicle ever went to Europe after the Capetown to Cairo African caravan. This may have been the intent but did it ever happen? Also, I've not heard whatever happened to either of these vehicles. Maybe you aren't aware of where they went.

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Old 03-22-2009, 12:03 PM   #58
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Back to the fascinating story on these unique vehicles. In referencing the plaque on the side of the Scout Vehicle, it says "Africa Near East (Bible Lands) Europe" as well as "South Africa Overland to Norway" but I've not heard any mention of if the vehicle ever went to Europe after the Capetown to Cairo African caravan. This may have been the intent but did it ever happen? Also, I've not heard whatever happened to either of these vehicles. Maybe you aren't aware of where they went.

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Wally was advised that after leaving predominately Christian nations, that having the "Bible Land" on the side of his tow vehicle, and the two Aux units wouldn't be prudent. So they were repainted on each side with the "Near East."

I am not sure if the units ever made it to Norway, but the Scout Truck and Mechanics vehicles did make it to Europe.

We shipped the vehicles from Alexandria, Egypt to Beruit Lebanon and the traveled to Trieste, Italy and met the 1960 European Caravan. My Mother met me with my Dad's car. We left and took three weeks to see parts of Europe that we enjoyed. We stayed in Paris for one week, Wally was supposed to meet us, but didn't. But we still had a nice stay.

When we crossed the Bosphrus from Asiatic Turkey to Istanbul, we entered Europe. We drove through Turkey, Geece, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and arrived in Itlay.

At the time my Mother, Helen Byam Schwamborn, and I left Nick Charles continued on with the Caravan driving the Scout Truck. Arthur Ruiz continued on as the mechanic with his vehicle.

When they were shipped home, I have no idea.

I did use the Scout truck to scout the 1961 Eastern Canadian trip prior to the group taking off. I left Eastern Canada, went to the 1961 Hersey International Rally, then returned to California. That summer I worked on the production line at the Airstream Facility (Santa Fe Springs, CA).

The last time I saw the Mechanics Truck was Italy, and the lsst time I saw the Scout Truck was the end of the summer 0f 1961.

What depostion was made of them, I have no idea. But my uise of the vehicel was fun while it lasted.

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Old 03-22-2009, 09:39 PM   #59
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Thank you PeeWee, as always, for your information and your recounting of historic caravans of the past. So for clarification, the last time you saw the scout truck was here in the states? You said you left eastern Canada, went to the 1961 Int'l in Hershey and then returned to California. Was this in the scout truck? Was the truck registered in CA with a CA plate?

This just keeps getting better.

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Thank you PeeWee, as always, for your information and your recounting of historic caravans of the past. So for clarification, the last time you saw the scout truck was here in the states? You said you left eastern Canada, went to the 1961 Int'l in Hershey and then returned to California. Was this in the scout truck? Was the truck registered in CA with a CA plate?

This just keeps getting better.

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Brad,

The last time I saw the Scout Truck was at the Airstream factory in Santa Fe Springs, CA. This was at the end of the summer before I went back to the University of Oregon. It was my cubby hole while I worked on the line, after retruning with the Scout Truck from the East. (Acutally I hadn't seen the Scout Truck until the summer of 1961, after leaving it in Trieste, Italy with Nick Charles and the 1960 European Caravan.)

The Scout Truck was registered in 1961 with State of California, DMV.

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How cool would that be?
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Man, my secret's out. It would make a great tow vehicle. Very cool stuff.

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Brad is playing the real History Detective if you ask me. I think the scout truck has him very captivated indeed. I could think of worst things to be captivated by.
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I am captivated by this one. Someday I hope to have it towing my Overlander. At present I will make due with my 2001 Dodge. She is being detailed this week, for I will have a dignitary riding with me on a caravan.

Well Brad, now we know the trucks made it back to the States. Next we need to find in which state they currently reside.
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Another Option

Frank is quite correct. I like the red and beige coloring over the dark blue but either would be a fantastic tow vehicle. Don't think there were many of these made though let alone them still being around.

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Frank is quite correct. I like the red and beige coloring over the dark blue but either would be a fantastic tow vehicle. Don't think there were many of these made though let alone them still being around.

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This red fire engine is interesting. The only IH that had writing on the side was Wally's, we had no decals for any of the vehicles.

This is a very inventive truck/Airstream owner duplicating Wally's gold IH.
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Another page to the story. I am riveted. keep those memories flowing, PeeWee. Thanks.
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Frank is quite correct. I like the red and beige coloring over the dark blue but either would be a fantastic tow vehicle. Don't think there were many of these made though let alone them still being around.

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Are those pictures from the time that this truck was owned by the Auburn Trailer Collection in New Castle, CA?

I have a print out from when that truck and the associated 1959 Overlander trailer behind it were for sale or were sold on the Tin Can Tourists web site in March 2007. The trailer was $6000, the truck was "inquire".

Unfortunately the Tin Can Tourist ad never made it clear if the trailer was from the Capetown to Cairo Caravan (no WBCCI numbers were visible), nor for that matter did it even make it clear if the truck was original or just a well detailed copy.

Do you have more information about this truck and trailer?
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Are those pictures from the time that this truck was owned by the Auburn Trailer Collection in New Castle, CA?

I have a print out from when that truck and the associated 1959 Overlander trailer behind it were for sale or were sold on the Tin Can Tourists web site in March 2007. The trailer was $6000, the truck was "inquire".

Unfortunately the Tin Can Tourist ad never made it clear if the trailer was from the Capetown to Cairo Caravan (no WBCCI numbers were visible), nor for that matter did it even make it clear if the truck was original or just a well detailed copy.

Do you have more information about this truck and trailer?
We had no red truck like the one in the picture.

The only truck that had the writing on the side was Wally's and it was gold tone to go with Stella's Gold trailer. The Scout Truck and the Mechanic's Truck had the same writing on each side that Wally had on his truck.

We absolutely had no decals on any of the trucks as shown in the pictures.

The truck may have gone to Africa, who knows.

Color and round decal definitely did not go to Africa.

The truck type and the utility box type are typical of what Wally used, but the red paint...aargh!

Personally if you want memories of the too many IH's that went to Africa go to a junk yard and find some snapped axles, and spider gears. The IH's only bring back bad memories of lousy engineering.
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This is indeed the set-up that was for sale through Vince's associate as part of the Auburn Trailer Collection and was out of the bay area a few years back. I just loved the fact that someone would take the time and effort to duplicate Wally's truck. Only now I hear from an undisputed authority that there never was a red truck. I realize, the IH left alot to be desired on rough roads and long trips but they're still cool looking. However, I'd still take the Chevy scout truck any day of the week.

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