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Old 09-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #15
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Is the oven option a useable option?? Would the storage drawers be of better use??

I have found two International 30 Airstreams that are configured with either. I just don't know what tends to be the better choice.
Look around -- there are dozens of oven threads.

The oven is indeed usable. I've used mine for roasts of various kinds, pizza, brownies, cupcakes, muffins, cake, pie, and so on.

Whether you will use it depends not only on whether you cook in the trailer, but also:

- Whether you travel to locations where it rains. (Most people cook outside if it isn't raining)

- Whether you do any boondocking (Most people don't really boondock, and if you don't, the convection oven will probably work out fine for you)

- Whether you use the oven in your stick house (Some people have a cooking style that doesn't require one)

I use mine on almost every trip but not everyone does.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:41 PM   #16
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Pre-cooking, freezing and heating up whilst camping are also real time savers. We often bring a couple of assorted pasta sauces and a stew or two for the freezer. Frittatas and Spanish omelettes travel well too. I would not recommend heating up food saver bags though, all kinds of nasties can make their way from plastic to food at high heat.

These are the bags we use:

Unlike other bags, FoodSaverŪ Bags can be simmered in water or microwaved (so you can reheat leftovers or pre-cooked dinners).

The bags are made of materials that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has determined to be safe for food use.

The bags are ideal for the freezer because they will keep all air and moisture out, preventing food from getting freezer burn and becoming dry and tasteless.

You can heat cooked foods, such as leftovers, in a FoodSaverŪ bag. The bags should never be used to cook raw foods. When microwaving, cut open a corner of the bag before putting it in the microwave so steam can escape. Avoid microwaving foods containing a lot of oil, as oil will get hot very quickly and could cause the sides of the bag to stick together.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:20 PM   #17
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These are the bags we use:

Unlike other bags, FoodSaverŪ Bags can be simmered in water or microwaved (so you can reheat leftovers or pre-cooked dinners).
I stand corrected.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:33 PM   #18
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All 3 of our Airstreams have (had) ovens, our 2 SOB's had them and we used everyone of them. 1 of the 'Streams and 1 of the SOB's have(had) microwaves and we hardly ever use it. Our 1st 'Stream didn't have a microwave so we tossed one in to use when we needed it, after a year we thru it away because we were tired of moving it.

We have a SOB toy hauler at work, no oven - just a stove top and microwave. More folks complain about the lack of an oven than folks who actually use the micowave.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:09 AM   #19
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To upgrade the microwave in the center stack on the 30/31 models to a convection/microwave is a $404 option in the Classic models. The order form does not even mention installing the gas oven in lieu of the drawers, but the parts books do show the cabinet base that will hold the gas oven in in place of kitchen drawers.

So I am not sure if that swap becomes an extra charge option. Really lame.
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The gas oven is standard.

Ordering the convection oven deletes the gas oven and adds the drawers.
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I ordered my '12 28' Intl with the microwave/convection combo. I hated it. The Sharp is overly complex (IMHO) and I found myself with manual in hand every time I wanted to cook something. And of course, if you had the Sharp you couldn't have the oven. SO, I figured out a way to have it all. I bought the drop in Amana oven at JC during Alumapalooza. As I measured the install, I found I had room for a Cuisinart micro/convection BELOW the oven. Granted, I'm on my hands and knees, but this works for me.
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Old 09-12-2013, 12:51 AM   #22
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I ordered my '12 28' Intl with the microwave/convection combo. I hated it. The Sharp is overly complex (IMHO) and I found myself with manual in hand every time I wanted to cook something. And of course, if you had the Sharp you couldn't have the oven. SO, I figured out a way to have it all. I bought the drop in Amana oven at JC during Alumapalooza. As I measured the install, I found I had room for a Cuisinart micro/convection BELOW the oven. Granted, I'm on my hands and knees, but this works for me.
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I gotta disagree about the Sharp. Yes it's complicated, but it works great! And it IS an oven.

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Hi, we seldom use our oven at home and only used the oven in our trailer a few times, but I wouldn't be without it. We were very fortunate that our trailer came with all three; Stove top, oven, and micro-wave. I believe that most trailers you get the stove top and either/or a micro-wave or oven, but not all three like mine.
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I ordered my '12 28' Intl with the microwave/convection combo. I hated it. The Sharp is overly complex (IMHO) and I found myself with manual in hand every time I wanted to cook something. And of course, if you had the Sharp you couldn't have the oven. SO, I figured out a way to have it all. I bought the drop in Amana oven at JC during Alumapalooza. As I measured the install, I found I had room for a Cuisinart micro/convection BELOW the oven. Granted, I'm on my hands and knees, but this works for me.
Agree totally. I removed my Sharp combo unit (never could figure it out) and installed a micro in the cabinet above the stovetop. We then installed a toaster oven below the stovetop. When we boondock, which is rare, we can only use the stovetop which is fine for us. Given the choice, I would choose gas oven and microwave.
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I like the Sharp convection microwave. I ignore all the fancy options but have baked some good pastries in them (nothing fancy just store bought puff pastry filled with jam). I can't bake and boondock, but I think it's a good compromise. I use the m/w more than the oven at home, so I bet that's the best predictor of what you will want in your trailer.
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Actually, the microwave is an option on the Classic 27FB and takes up 1/3 of the pantry. If a convection/microwave is ordered, then the gas oven leaves but the kitchen drawers remain.

On any of the non-bunk 30/31 models, the microwave is stock in the center cabinet with the sink on the left. The gas cooktop is on the right with kitchen drawers below. The factory order price sheet does not even refer to the gas oven. Selecting a convection/microwave just replaces the plain microwave in the center stack.

When checking the model 2013 and 2014 30/31 parts manuals for Flying Cloud, International and Classic models in the kitchen cabinet areas, there is NO center stack kitchen drawer option cabinetry. There is a right cabinet that can be fitted for the gas oven in lieu of drawers.

So we are contemplating what chinese firedrill would be required to bring a model 30 Classic trailer in with the kitchen drawers and then order the gas oven base and have a cabinet shop modify the center stack where the microwave is to accept the kitchen drawers from the original cabinet. When I see all the custom woodwork folks have done, this is nearly a no brainer, just takes $$$$.

It would seem to me that the 30/31 models have enought extra storage and load capacity to have a small counter top microwave plus the gas oven and drawers. The 2011 34' tri-axle Classic we saw had both microwave and gas ovens plus a drawer stack...
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Oven = toast! We use the oven all the time and would not be without it.

The micro-convection unit is great but you have to have an electric hookup to use it (or a big generator). Afaik, there is no way around the need for power when using it.
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Old 09-12-2013, 11:29 AM   #28
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We've got the convection/microwave. In our trailer (picture below), it sits over the top of a food storage panty. The picture is my trailer new, with the slide out pulled in. We had some misgivings at first but we don't boondock so power is always available. I think the major issue of the convection/microwave is the fact that every thing has to fit on a spinning turntable. That means smaller square pans or pans which are round. Cooking is faster with the convection so you do have a learning curve there. On the other hand we never have been impressed with the gas ovens in our previous trailers. They seen to have a lot of variance in their thermostats.

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