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Old 02-28-2009, 06:24 AM   #29
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Black & Decker Home Cafe

We bought the B&D Home Cafe @ Camping World - it is a single cup machine that uses coffee pods (Senso & Folgers sold @ Winn Dixie). Fresh cup everytime. It also has the option for 2 pods for a very large cup. It stows right under the sink when traveling and no glass on it. When dry camping, we get the coffee that is already in 10 cup pods and place one in the regular enamel coffee pot on the camp stove - boil for about 5 min. and you got coffee.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:09 AM   #30
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Good morning. You are wrong about amps is amps. It's watts is watts.

The 900 watt coffeemaker will draw 900 watts 120 volts = 7.5 amperes

If the inverter were 100% efficient, it would need 900 watts in to provide 900 watts out and that would be 900 watts 12 volts = 75 amperes.

But the inverter isn't 100% efficient. So divide that 75 amps by 82% and you get about 90 amps.

That's why the shortcut for estimating amps from the battery for an inverter fed device is the load wattage divided by 10.

I wasn't trying to insult you or your Optima battery, nor suggest you replace it without finding out for yourself whether it's adequate for you.

The only way you'll really know how its doing is with a battery monitor like the Xantrex X10 or XBM, or the Trimetic 2020.

Just trying to help.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #31
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Opinions Are Like Coffee Makers

Or rather, coffee makers are like opinions.
Everybody has one or 2 or 3....
Actually, we have 2 sometimes 3 in the Airstream:
1. Stainless 3 cupper for stove or campfire
2. Stainless 7 cupper for stove or campfire and company
3. Electric, plastic with compartments and insulated carafe whilst putting on the dawg at a fancy resort type establishment with electricity.

Always wanted a press until the bad press about coffee grounds toxins.
Sort of like the bad tea bag toxins from squeezing out too many cups of tea from 1 bag.
And....I am too cheap to try one.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:50 AM   #32
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I was against the one cup pod makers because of having to buy thier pods. Ended up with one somehow and found you can buy a pod thingy and use your own coffee. Works for us as we both get what we want and don't throw anyway or drink "kept warm" sludge. Second choice for a small group is the steam coffee make I have but seems no longer available. The original small melitta funnel is prefect when AC is not available. Without good coffee it doesn't matter what you make it in....

I think I'll make a cup off the new inverter and measure the amp hours the battery gives up.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:43 AM   #33
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Thanks to all. For the coffee advice as well as the electricity lesson. Two things I don't understand in this world: electricity and carburetors.

Since we like in this perpetual freezer called Ohio, we've still got about a month before we're going to be able to de-winterize the camper and get out there. I should probably have noted this earlier on, but we need at least a 10 cupper. We drink some serious coffee. So, we're on the lookout at the 2nd hand stores for a normal electric model. If we don't find anything by camping season then we're going to pick up the Coleman unit before hitting the road. If we DO find a cheap electric model, then we will see how many times we have to "do without" as a result of no land-line power. If that ends up being a lot of times, then we'll likley drop $50 on the 10 cup french press that Andrea found somewhere on the internet.

Thanks again for the advice from all.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:00 AM   #34
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I always vote for the Melitta. the one-cupper costs a couple of dollars, takes up no space, and requires little clean-up. It probably takes less time to make a perfect cup o' joe than it does to make a cup of tea.
I just don't care for the taste of french-press coffee. plus, it is a royal pain in the caboose to clean-up. (Water is another precious commodity in a boondocking situation, too.)
The Coleman thing is a neat idea, but imo, and extreme "rube goldberg" device. How complicated can we make the most simple task? Plus, its HUGE and expensive. space is a commodity, too.
If you must have a 10-cupper, then melitta makes one of those, too. They cost like 12 or 15 dollars. problem there is keeping it warm...which you can do w/ a thermal caraffe, but then you're adding more "stuff" and taking up more space...something else to clean. They used to make a model that used a thermal caraffe instead of a glass one, but they stopped making it, for some strange reason. To me, that would be the perfect rv-ing setup.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:05 AM   #35
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The most efficient way to make coffee is to boil water on the stovetop that has been so equipped in your Airstream. Percolators and French presses make wonderful coffee, better than automatic drip. Or simply pour the near boiling water into a cone filter right into your cup. Think outside the [automatic drip] box. I agree with what others have said about not using a generator in the great outdoors.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:22 AM   #36
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We have the Tassimo coffee maker. Sits well on the counter,has never fallen off even when moving and the 'pods" of coffee don't require special storage to stay fresh. You brew one cup at a time any time you want. We have one at home also and are very well satisfied with them. Of course you have to have electric to use it, but then we always "camp" on the grid so there is no problem there. Tassimo offers many, many varities of coffee, tea and chocolate.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:37 AM   #37
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We bought our fair share of failed coffee makers and finally arrived at a Cuisinart Coffee on Demand 12-cup programmable coffee maker. It lists for about $100.00, but we got it at Sam's Club for about $60.00. We liked it so much we know own three. One for the house and ech of our Airstreams. It even has that Airstream silver look about it and it makes a great "pot" of coffee.

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Old 02-28-2009, 10:04 AM   #38
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We've bought 'em all...

Good hot coffee everytime: Melitta. 1 cup version.
We drink coffee all day long.

That's my vote.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:12 AM   #39
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We like Chemex. I have a thermal carafe to put the coffee in but it never lasts that long.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:17 AM   #40
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I don't drink coffee but ...

... I would recommend CHEMEX OR COFFEE TODDY. The benefits of each are similar - fresh taste the old-fashioned way - boiling water over the grounds. The Chemex method is truly chemistry with emphasis on proper water temperature and slow pouring over the grounds - you can also keep the carafe/coffee warm in a "water bath" on the stove - everyone raves about this coffee - the other method is to decant a pound of coffee before you leave using the Coffee Toddy and take the concentrated liquid with you in the refrigerator - then you just take what you need a cup at a time and add boiling water - both these methods are very "old" and are tried and true!
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The most efficient way to make coffee is to boil water on the stovetop that has been so equipped in your Airstream. Percolators and French presses make wonderful coffee, better than automatic drip. Or simply pour the near boiling water into a cone filter right into your cup. Think outside the [automatic drip] box. I agree with what others have said about not using a generator in the great outdoors.
I fulltime and live alone so I got one of those gold filters. I plop it into a coffee cup add grounds and pour water through. It's fast and good. I also have a large lexan French Press and a hand grinder. I learned a trick from another member here - buy green coffee and roast it in an old fashioned campfire popcorn popper (a cast iron skillet works well too but will wear out your arm!). It takes time so I only do that on sunny weekends, but boy it will draw a crowd in a campground.

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