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Old 05-16-2014, 12:54 PM   #15
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The dealers put a convection microwave in for a few more dollars in their pocket. One could install the propane oven with a cabinet switch out. Download from the Airstream site the 2014 Flying Cloud parts manual and go to page III-141.

Part 968025 Galley Cabinet Assembly
Part 968025-01 Galley Cabinet Asswembly, w/Convection Microwave

To be more specific on page III-144

Part 967917 Galley Assy., Forward w/Oven 30' Bunk

I do not know the time required or the parts cost, but one could retrofit a propane oven.

When we ordered our unit (initially a 27FB Classic) we explicitly omitted the convection Microwave to ensure the propane oven was installed. When we switched the order to the Classic Model 30, we wanted it standard with the propane oven along with a plain microwave. If we dislike the microwave, then we will have kitchen drawers made to fit into the microwave location.

One needs a much larger capacity inverter and battery capacity than the factory options to power the convection microwave from battery power in the woods. A 2,000 watt generator might have the capacity to power the convection microwave. The convection microwave label plate will detail the power requirements in both watts and amps.

Our custom solar conversion and large battery power bank could run the typical convection microwave oven for a few hours because of a large capacity inverter (2,800 watts).

The news today is that the Bunk house models are continued, so you may want to spec a unit out at your favorite dealership. They can change any order they have on the books with Airstream to a different modelt perhaps a month before the "reservation" slot unit gets built.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:10 PM   #16
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This is another one of those camping style questions. Some folks would never think of camping without full hookups. The microwave would be nice in those situations. Some others spend quite a bit of their time boondocking where electricity is not available. We do a bit of both so for us, it comes down to making a decision about "if you only have one choice". We would go with a regular oven.

We use ours a lot and not having a microwave isn't a big issue. If we had one we would use it but I wouldn't give up our oven to get one.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:27 PM   #17
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When I bought my Airstream the Micro convection oven was on my replace list until I started using it.I works like a conventional oven plus a microwave.It is staying.
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Ahab,
Noticed you have a Safari 22' & interested in what capacity generator you use. Currently researching alternatives for our Flying Cloud 20' which also has convection/microwave oven. Expect we will boondock & we love to cook!
Also interested in others experiences with the 1000 watt inverter.
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:39 PM   #19
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I will chime in here. Our first two had a regular gas oven. I used them and liked them. We bought our International off the lot and it had a microwave/convection in it instead of a gas oven. I don't like it. I almost never use the microwave at home and we frequently camp without enough power for everything. I am seriously thinking about replacing it with a gas oven.
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:20 AM   #20
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The label plate shown above in post #13 mentions a 13 amp power draw. That equals 1,560 watts. The factory inverter option is rated 1,000 watts.

A Honda 2,000 watt generator is rated for 2,000 watts surge, but 1,600 watts or 13.3 amps for continuous use. That would be the smallest generator that could run that microwave equipment for any length of time when boon docking..
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Old 05-17-2014, 03:43 AM   #21
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I have used my convection microwave 3 times.
1. Toast
2. Peanut butter cookies
3. Biscuits
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While cooking bacon and sausage on an electric griddle- some folks that camp with us do bacon in the microwave-
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:02 AM   #22
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One thing to keep in mind about convection ovens is that you really shouldn't use the convection for baking cakes. The dry air will tend to overcook the top while the rest undercooks. And don't take my word for it, this comes from the folks at Americas test kitchen.

And as others have mentioned, it draws quite a bit of power as any electric oven does. I use a convection oven at home and I really like it for browning meats. My '73 overlander has the original gas oven and I'm keeping it since it does a good job for baking and I am installing a mid sized microwave to supplement it.
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:59 AM   #23
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Our 30' FC came outfitted the same way. We try to cook outside as much as possible and in any event don't do much oven cooking on the road anyway. So, we don't miss the oven.
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It really depends on how you plan to camp and the foods you like.

I usually prefer warm food over cold cuts, etc., so I cook. As far as situations go, others have already posted the main weakness with only a micro/convection- electric required. If you get a generator, then you are covered. As for using an inverter to run it, I would not plan on that unless you had a large bank of batteries or are only heating up something- it is just too limiting for cooking at high wattages- at least for very long. That said...when camping in a campground with hookups that you are paying for, why burn propane for cooking? Here is how I outfitted:

Outdoor cooking:
Coleman Roadtrip XL propane grill (truckbed storage)
Billy Bob Campfire set and Lodge Dutch Oven, charcoal
Duxtop Electric Induction burner (when elec is avail.)
Panasonic Flash Oven (when elec is avail. indoor/outdoor)

Indoor Cooking:
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Microwave


This covers most any cooking need. The cumbersome parts are the iron campfire set, the dutch oven and the Coleman grill. Everything else is lightweight and fairly small. The campfire set allows for pan cooking over a fire- basically a rod with swinging arms and a table surface. As to your question, I believe it is a great option you have and if it covers your needs that may be all you need. The electric cooktop has been the latest boon for me. Induction will boil water super fast. Another option would be the electric griddle like M.Hony. You might just get a generator and a griddle! Ironically, I prefer bacon in the microwave using that weird wave side stacker thing.
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Ahab,
Noticed you have a Safari 22' & interested in what capacity generator you use. Currently researching alternatives for our Flying Cloud 20' which also has convection/microwave oven. Expect we will boondock & we love to cook!
Also interested in others experiences with the 1000 watt inverter.
We use a Honda 2000i. It has no problem running the convection/micro but that's all you can run at one time. Don't waste your money on a 1000 watt inverter.
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Success with baking Trader Joes Biscuits in convection oven to go with French press coffee after first night boondocking in our backyard with our new Airstream....only "continental breakfast" ...but happy with results!
And did not set off smoke alarm )
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Toast, cookies, and biscuits-
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A little skeptical at first....boldly placed the blackberry cobbler in the convection micro on our maiden voyage.....impressed!
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