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Old 09-15-2015, 02:16 PM   #29
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We have the 25' twin FC and I find it easy to tow and very maneuverable. Its our first travel trailer and I agree with previous comments. Go with the 25.
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:29 PM   #30
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Also, get a 50 amp trailer so the a/c and microwave or your wife's hair dryer can be used at the same time without tripping breakers.

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Old 09-15-2015, 02:30 PM   #31
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It really depends on what kind of camping you like to do, what specifically you want your AS to have in it, how many of you will be camping, and your floor plan preferences.

We deliberately stay small because we enjoy camping in older, less-visited boondocking campgrounds in more remote areas, where 20' is often about as long as you can go. While most of the national park campgrounds accommodate longer trailers, their number of sites for them is sometimes limited, with more sites available for small RVs. With a Tundra truck with a canopy on it (topper, cap,) we have more room for camping gear than we need.

When Bambi the First got totaled in an accident, we looked at the 22' Sport, and also could have gotten a good price on a used 23' International. We decided on the 19' Flying Cloud.

We really like the Flying Cloud's light, bright interior, the 19''s back window over the bed (vs. the rear-end bathroom we saw in the Sport) and the fact that desirable features were standard, like the front stone guards and storage in the rear bumper. We have a full bath, a decent kitchen, and sufficient room for us and a medium-size dog.

Our unit does not have a microwave or space to put one, but hey-- we're camping.

We never felt crowded in the 16-footer, however, and that included some 6-week camp-a-thons.
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:41 PM   #32
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So now that you have a zillion opinions and are totally confused...
My 2 cents: we have had a 29'; 30'; & 28'. Loved them all!
We now have a 25' and we love it too...
So you have to decide what works for one can do that for you. Go with your gut...don't second guess yourself.... It will all work out and you will have a great time camping, meet wonderful people and see fabulous places...America the Beautiful is waiting for you...don't delay.
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:42 PM   #33
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As soon as you decide that the 25 is the way to go, you'll have to pick the bedroom and lounge configuration that you like best.

Then you'll say, I like the larger lounge and the larger bedroom, can't I have both? Of course you can, get the 27, which is the 25 with both the larger lounge and the larger bedroom!

Been there, bought the 27 with twins!
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:01 PM   #34
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We found the same thing with our 25'FB cushions, not very comfortable to watch TV. Also the leatherette is very slippery, causing me to slowly slid off the seat.
The bed is very comfortable; however a queen sized bed in a little room is way too much. Difficult to get in or out of the bed.
No problem towing with a Ford f-150 Ecoboost. good fuel milage, comparable to my previous Toyota 4-Runner 6cyl. towing a Hi-Lo.
It's very evident tho, that AS marches to their own drummer, as many of the features do not follow RV Industry standards, and there are items installed that have no rhyme or reason. One wonders what they are drinking in the Design Bureau.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:09 PM   #35
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We did the 22' Sport then a 25" FC. Get the 25'. You will be happy, happy. Having a full queen bed, easy to tow as the Sport. It's all good. Get the 25' and see the USA. We now have a 30' but not because of anything wrong with the 25'. You will be much happier with the 25' long term.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:18 PM   #36
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You will hardly notice the size difference. Get the 25.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:22 PM   #37
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We were going to buy the 2015 FC 25 but ended up with the 28. Only 3 feet longer but you get a separate dinette along with the long and short sofa. We use the dinette more than the sofa.

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Old 09-15-2015, 03:30 PM   #38
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Len N Jeanne,
How usable do you find the 48" width bed in the FC23 for two people? That would have been our first choice but for concern the bed is too narrow.

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Old 09-15-2015, 03:46 PM   #39
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Bought a 2001 AS 25. Loved it, but sold it after three years. Now I've ordered a 2016 Interstate.
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:00 PM   #40
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The extra 4' in length is not that more noticeable while towing and only a tiny bit more difficult when getting in and out of gas stations. You will quickly get used to towing it. I recently from a 25 Flying Cloud to a 30 Serenity and hardly noticed any difference with the same tow vehicle.
Compare them side by side.
25 has bigger bed or twin bed arrangement, 2 axles, bigger AC, bigger tanks (black, grey, fresh and propane - all which is nice when boondocking), bigger dinette, more storage, bigger fridge, etc. If you are second guessing yourselves now, it will most likely be worse later. I learned the hard way in the last 10 years moving from a 19', then 25' and now the 30, which is more than enough room for the two of us, but in a few years we plan on taking our grandkids on summer vacations with us all over the USA.
If you go with the 25, I would recommend the 25FB Twin, because it has the dinette in the back (better views in many campgrounds), and with the twin beds it is much easier to maneuver in the bedroom and much easier to make the bed. The other 25's it is not that easy to make the bed - that space on the back side of the bed is not that usable. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Old 09-15-2015, 05:16 PM   #41
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Suggest the OP spend some more time in different models. Sit at the dinette area and pretend to see the television. Is it straight ahead or is your head at a 90 degree angle. Sit cross wise on the dinette seat. How many cushions are needed for back support if the knees are bent with feet on the floor? Sit on the toilet - is there adequate leg room?

With a cross frame bed model, try and reach the roof lockers over the bed without climbing on the bed. Sit up in bed without hitting your head if against the outside wall. The person on the outside wall has to crab walk down the bed for a night "P" run. Open the outside storage hatch and see if you can reach to the foot of the bed to get something out of the storage area.

There are just lots of trade offs between the models. If you are questioning your choice, cool your heels and do more research.

After the 25FB International Serenity queen bed experience, we ordered a 27FB twin Classic because we loved the Hickory wood interior. We came to the realization that the back 15' of both the 25FB and the 27FB are identical and we disliked the dinette area. We switched the order for the $3,012 difference between the 27FB and the 31' Classic with twin beds since production was still months away. We are completely happy with our decision.
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Old 09-15-2015, 05:29 PM   #42
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As switz suggests... spend a LOT of time in the different units. We spent several entire afternoons sitting in and envisioning how we would "live" inside various units. This is a decision NOT to be made hastily. Don't walk in and out of a few units, with casual glances at the interiors and make a decision.

Narrow down to one or two floorpans and then literally sit in them for a few hours; envision where all of your stuff will go; experience the feel of where you will sit for hours-on-end reading a book, surfing the web, or watching TV. Only then will you be able to make your own decision as to what will work for you. What works for someone else may very well not work well, at all, for you!

Don't feel rushed by sales people or the dealer. Tell them to go back to their office, that you need to experience being inside the unit for a few hours. You are running this decision, not the sales person. Bring a book or iPad along to surf the web while you sit on the bench sofa for an hour - deciding how well it serves you for comfort, and then sit at the dinette for an hour. You really need to experience the feel of being inside the coach for an extended period of time.... not just 10 or 15 minutes.

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