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Old 09-17-2016, 09:59 AM   #29
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SnuffySmith, welcome, I have a 31' 1978 International that I've owned for many years bought as used and have put some repairs into it.
I would NEVER buy a new AS even if I could afford one if I was looking I would try to find one built before 2002 and refurbished or 1970 some thing classic reburbished 31' you will find the longer trailer is more stable towing and a lot easier to back up then the short ones, the saying "buy your 3rd trailer first" will save you a lot of frustration in the long run. I have pulled my AS with a GMC 1500 1/2 ton pickup for many thousands of miles and average between 12.5 and 15.5 mpg. Good luck! Maybe see you down the road.

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Old 09-17-2016, 10:21 AM   #30
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Welcome to the forum!
Where to start.
At home, look at all your stuff, decide how much of it you really need to travel with.
The Airstream lifestyle is comfortable, easy to tow, iconic in a classic sort of way. But traveling and experiencing new places and people is the real end game. SOB of trailer might let you pack more of that stuff. Might let you sit inside more and miss out on the places' you are at.
We tried to make the best choice for us, 2014 27FB International CCD, lounge/dinette space and bedroom. Both have tv, wife and I can have our own space when needed. We started with a 1500 Chevy ended up with the 2500 td.
We are still working and camping as elderly parents will let us.
Most likely will upgrade to a 30 to retire with a larger bathroom.
Good Luck!

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Old 09-17-2016, 10:35 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Piggy Bank View Post
Welcome to the fun.

As a comment on tow vehicles, if you do feel that a Tundra can meet the payload needs for your situation, then I will pine on about mine for a line or 2.

I drive a 2014 Tundra 5.8L V8 4x4 extended cab short bed as my daily driver. It is a very comfortable ride. We have owned 2 suburbans in the past, and the Tundra is much easier to drive around the city. More comfortable seats, better shifting points for the gears (it's easy to keep it at 35 mph around town. That was not easy with the Suburban). It has great AC, and the back seats flip up to create a huge area there.

But my #1 favorite feature is that on my trim level, the back window rolls completely down. That is just so awesome for highway travel on days with nice weather. You get that fresh air feeling without the wind in you face/blowing hair into your eyes. And unlike a sun roof you don't get cooked or need to worry about sunburn

I belive the 2017 model also offers a 35 gallon fuel tank. That would be a nice to have also.

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Old 09-17-2016, 01:45 PM   #32
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It is evident that all those posting love their Airstreams!

I have only this to add. I would strongly consider purchasing a nice, one to slightly less than two year old Airstream (they come with a two year warranty) that has already taken the depreciation hit. This will allow you to make sure you like the lifestyle and trailer size and if you don't you can resell without costing you as much as purchasing new would have.
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Old 09-17-2016, 03:53 PM   #33
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My primitive male instincts are to go big or go home. I counter that with the Robin Williams guiding principal; "Men have a p***s and a brain, but only enough blood to run one at a time".

We're leaning towards a Classic, but don't know exactly why just yet; top of the line, more space. A 28-30 foot rig seems right...

Meeks, with that kind of phraseology, I don't think Snuffy cares one iota about those depreciative hits. (BTW, I also bought new - was impetuous - no regrets!)

Snuffy, go for it, man! Sixty is the age to ditch "a cautious life."
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:07 PM   #34
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Now that's what I was hoping for. Thanks for the many thoughtful and insightful replies. It will be fun putting the pieces of the puzzle together. Thanks for your assistance.

We live in Minnesota which isn't overly hospitable to retirees from a tax standpoint. We are open to establishing residence elsewhere, and I've done some research on that topic.

In terms of an AS and TV, is there any information suggesting there are better states than others to purchase/register the rig? I am not fully informed as yet on MN fees/taxes relating to RV's, but it's a fair bet that if there is a dollar of revenue to be had, MN will be collecting it.

We have only one AS dealer in MN. We visited them last week for the first time and found them to be hospitable. Are there any dealers across the country that veteran AS'ers view as cream of the crop?

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Old 09-19-2016, 08:18 PM   #35
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If I had to do it all over again, I'd likely get a Ram 3500 (non-duelly), as many Ram/AS owners have told me that simply for trailer pulling, the leaf springs in the 3500 work better for towing than the coil springs in the 2500, & the extra cost of the 3500 over the 2500 is only several hundred dollars.

Greetings Rgentum. Thanks for taking time for your informative reply. Quick question. As you noted, the difference in price between a 3/4 and a 1 ton is modest. What is the downside if any of the 1 ton.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:21 PM   #36
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I visited that dealer when they had their satellite location in Des Moines and thought they were very knowledgable.

I suggest that anytime you are someplace between now and when you are ready to buy that you 1-make an appointment and 2-stop by and see for yourself.

Before we bought, we visited Reliable in Springfield Mo, Shorewood in Des Moines (that's the one in Anoka also), Ewald in Milwaukee, and Bill Thomas in St Louis.

We purchased from Bill Thomas. For us it was between them and Shorewood, and we chose Bill Thomas because they were in our state and closer to get to for service. And they were very experienced, a primary Airstream dealer, and knew more than I did when we visited.

Of course if you want to widen your search then use some of those airline miles and go to New Jersey, see a show at the Stone Pony, and visit Colonial.

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Old 09-20-2016, 08:57 AM   #37
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Thanks Piggy. Coincidentally, Reliable was our first AS stop during a recent visit to the Ozarks.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:05 PM   #38
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Welcome Snuffy!!! We're 71, with a 2002 Safari. We've had a previous progression of SOBs, but never kept the same one all that long. Once we approached retirement age we decided on Airstream for our dream getaway - not only is it still in perfect condition but it will long outlast us! You can spend the $$$ now, or you can spend it later repairing a lesser quality SOB. and one word of advice regardless of choice: make SURE your couch (or preferably recliners) are comfortable in the long run. You'll be sorry really fast if all the furniture hurts! Been there. Best of luck with your upcoming adventures!!
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:16 PM   #39
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I live in Florida but purchased my Airstream from Colonial RV in New Jersey. Don't limit yourself to what's close to you. Make it a national search. Half the fun will be getting it home.
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:33 PM   #40
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We bought both of our Airstreams from Shorewood and don't regret it; we could have saved a thousand somewhere else but it cost more than that to go get it. We are snowbirds, 6 to 7 months a year traveling and living in our Airstream in the South, Southwest preferred. A few months each year at a large RV resort is a blast, great friendships and community life. We are only in the Airstream in the evenings and to sleep.

We bought the smallest of the large Airstreams, a 25 Rear Bed, and have upgraded and customized it for our long distance travel, emphasis on reliability. Comfortable long-term seating is needed, we had Airstream Factory Service modify ours for recliners.

Living on the road more than half the year, we wanted a safe, comfortable, economical tow vehicle that spends most of its miles as our daily driver when away from home. That excluded heavy duty pickups, we have used half-ton trucks for over 1400 days Airstream travel all over the country many, many times and couldn't be happier.

There are considerations. Travel light in the truck bed, load your Airstream smartly to avoid excess hitch weight (heavy stuff near the trailer axles), a Hensley/ProPride hitch for absolute stability, climb and descend steep grades with reduced speed, stay in control and use a combination of engine compression braking (shift transmission down as needed), truck and trailer service brakes for the safest descents. Avoid long or winding 7% plus grades until you know what you're doing (there are guides to plan your routes) with any tow vehicle. If lots of mountain travel I would upgrade to disc brakes on the Airstream for the safest braking in all conditions.

We leave in a couple of weeks, route to be determined by weather and what we want to see.

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