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Old 12-08-2011, 09:20 AM   #15
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Something that hasn't been mentioned yet is that a lot of parks that have long-term occupants offer a pump-out service. Lacking that, trundling it yourself with a blue boy or renting an above-ground sewage tank with periodic pump-outs will work.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:35 AM   #16
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:08 AM   #17
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There's more than one of you? Yeah, definitely either get a portable or a service to pump you out. Good luck with your daughter - have you tried virgin coconut oil in her diet?
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:32 AM   #18
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Ken, that would be the best situation, but ours is a little different. My little girl has to be infection-free for the next two winters. The further away from people we are, the better. I found a place near a hospital in Florida, with only a few other campers in Feb and March. Only drawback is no sewage.

I don't even know how big my holding tanks is. Guess I need to find that out. Good to know about portables though.
The tanks in a '75 Argosy are SMALL. Under 15 gallons for each of gray and black. The recommendations for leasing a holding tank where the lease includes pump-out of that tank sound like a good option, but you might still need a macerator pump or something like the "sewer solution" that people have good things to say about, because the outlet on our trailers is low to the ground. Unless you have a significant downhill slope to locate an above-ground tank below the level of the trailer, you'll give up some of a big external tank's capacity if you rely only on gravity to dump into it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:36 AM   #19
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My 64 came with these great instructions: you dig a hole, then put a plywood half sheet with a hole in it on top of the hole, then use some of the extra dirt from the hole to hold the board down. Then you backup over the hole, and fish your slinky into the hole cut in the plywood. It's now directly under your black tank. Put a couple random coolers around and nobody's the wiser. Yeah, yeah, it's illegal in most places, but the simplicity is so appealing.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:52 AM   #20
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Your holding tank is only good for 5 days or so. The gray water tank is smaller and for use fills first.
Frankly, I would look hard for a apartment or something before I would live in a Airstream with no sewage hookup.
I would be worried about staying in a location with no sewer hookups and other trailers anyway in you situation. They probably dump gray water on the ground and spill sewage.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:54 AM   #21
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Don't laugh out loud, but I just need to know this. In these places with no sewer hookups, what good is it to have to hook up every five days or so, and pull over to a dump station?

I am looking at living in my airstream for three months, and this seems like a pain in the backside.

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Nothing.

For two years in a row I've parked the trailer for 8 weeks at a certain private campground where it is within walking distance of a venue where I perform in a stage show on weekends. There are only electric hookups available.

The choices I have are these:

1) Make only minimal use of the plumbing in the trailer. There are showers and portable toilets at the venue, and if I use paper plates and don't really cook I can get through 8 weekends without dumping tanks.

2) Pay the portable toilet company to spot a 300 gallon waste tank and pump it out from time to time. That's what I did this year, and it was expensive and stinky.

3) Haul wastewater away in a tank. I did that last year. Some people use blue boys, I was using a 55 gallon drum in the bed of my truck and a wastewater pump. That wasn't much fun either.

4) Dump wastewater on the ground or in a cathole. At this particular location it's unlawful, and IMO disrespectful of other campers, but some people do it. There are some locations that are remote enough that this approach is appropriate and lawful.

5) Pull the trailer out and take it to a dump station as necessary.

6) Camp somewhere else. That's my plan for next year at this point (The campground in question has other shortcomings).

In general, I see my trailer as being useful for self-contained operation for a maximum of two nights. For anything beyond that, as a practical matter, there have to be hookups or some sort of sensible plan for getting electricity and fresh water and disposing of wastewater. Other people go longer than that but they don't have kids or long hair.
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The tanks in a '75 Argosy are SMALL. Under 15 gallons for each of gray and black. The recommendations for leasing a holding tank where the lease includes pump-out of that tank sound like a good option, but you might still need a macerator pump or something like the "sewer solution" that people have good things to say about, because the outlet on our trailers is low to the ground. Unless you have a significant downhill slope to locate an above-ground tank below the level of the trailer, you'll give up some of a big external tank's capacity if you rely only on gravity to dump into it.
Gravity will still work provided you aren't trying to empty the tanks in the trailer completely. Otherwise, the amount of extra clearance needed isn't that great, and two or three layers of 2x8s will raise the wheels enough to provide some fall into the tank.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:30 PM   #23
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Sewer Solution has finally made it into the conversation. Look this item up on the web, it works and is useful for up to 100 feet of "pumping" your tanks to a sewer connection where you will be staying. Posters on here have used hard PVC 1 inch pipe (cheap) to make this connection at their homes and campsites and have had some success of doing this up hill over long distances. Check this option out. I used one my last camp out and it worked better than I expected.

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I spent 3 months of last winter in Kentucky without sewer hook-ups in a Classic with grey and black tanks that I think are larger than yours. We had pump out service from a sewer company once a week, twice or three times would have been much better and there was only myself. My husband and I spent 5 and 2 months respectively in our Airstreams in Wisconsin one summer and he operated the premises' honey wagon himself. It is a chore and a situation that is a definite inconvenience as it interferes with "life" and you must be diligent and take time to attend to the task regularly in all types of weather and whether you are busy or not or pay the consequences of not being able to use your systems further. I'd suggest inquiring at the campground about pump out services. Another option is to use the campground washrooms which may or may not be more "convenient" for you but definitely a bigger source of germs I would imagine. Or try sink liners for sponge baths and a portapotty or wag bags. Cleanwaste - WAG BAG 12-Pack - Portable Toilets - Camping World
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Ya know, we have been using campground washrooms 90% of the time for years, and have yet to become ill. Wash your hands, wear your flip-flops, it works just fine.

When you have a teeny tiny bathroom/shower combo, with equally teeny holding tanks, it just makes more sense or you spend all your time at the dump station.

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Ya know, we have been using campground washrooms 90% of the time for years, and have yet to become ill. Wash your hands, wear your flip-flops, it works just fine.

When you have a teeny tiny bathroom/shower combo, with equally teeny holding tanks, it just makes more sense or you spend all your time at the dump station.

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Airstream bowel syndrome, can exponentially extend black tank capacity......or not.

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I was wondering why everyone always talks about using lots of ABS to extend their sewage capacity, but I figured they were referring to the 4" piping grids....
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Airstream bowel syndrome, can exponentially extend black tank capacity......or not.

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Funny, sort of.

Seriously, if ya wanna extend the time between dumps, ya gotta use the public facilities. It's really okay, guys.


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