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Old 11-20-2014, 07:02 PM   #1
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We play Guitar and Keyboard Piano

When we travel, we like to take my guitar and Nancy's keyboard along. It would be really great, in our FC-19 to totally remove the table (temporarily set-a-side) and put music and/or piano stands where the table is for the hour or so we each play. We generally play outside. The problem with that is that we end up with an "audience." Flattering, but distracting. Does anyone utilize this dining space for such foolishness. Our last trailer had a couch area that worked great ... No, we're keeping the FC-19 ... HA! I probably can figure out a way, myself. But, I want to maintain the integrity of the table attachments. Dave
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Old 11-20-2014, 07:56 PM   #2
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How else generally do you use that area? Only eating, or both eating at the table and dropping the table for setting up as a front bed/lounge?

Do you prefer to play guitar standing with a strap, sitting on a stool, or sitting cross-legged on the floor or cushion?

Do you prefer to play keyboards standing or seated?

Do you prefer to play facing each other, or shoulder to shoulder?
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Old 11-20-2014, 11:27 PM   #3
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We sit at the table a lot. We haven't, and probably won't use it for sleeping. Always Seated, for both instruments (classical guitar) ... At the table location, only one would fit. Thanks for asking. We don't play together. The question evolved because the hinge system for the table isn't designed to facilitate removing the table. I could probably just spread the thing. But, wondered if anyone had specifically done this.
Good questions ... Thanks for asking! Dave
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:11 AM   #4
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Some RVs have tables with similar hinges that don't have the wire bales that tie the table top to the wall. These also tip up to unhinge, but then the tabletop completely separates from the mating bracket on the wall.

See post below (on another forum) that has a hinge that might work for you:

Outside Table Mod - Forest River Forums

I'd check your local RV parts store, and look for similar (replacement) hinges that will allow the table to be removed.
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Old 11-21-2014, 06:05 AM   #5
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Ideas would be to modify the table legs (possibly with the Eddie Bauer style), modify the hinge as suggested above so that it comes off the wall, remove the table altogether and replace with something else, or make up the front table as a bed/lounge, and add a secondary table. I would probably do the last, and then find a nice adjustable height table that could be used for playing and for food prep area either inside or outside.
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Old 11-21-2014, 06:14 AM   #6
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Why not just get rid of the table all together and get a couple of folding table trays..?
I sit on a "drummers stool" in mine to practice....compact and provides the proper height and posture support.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:01 AM   #7
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You could probably squeeze a Marshal double stack in there along with a B-3 but it might get tight....
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:39 AM   #8
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Thumbs up we play guitar and keyboard piano

I am a guitarist too and often travel with a fellow player. My Airstream 534 has a fixed table that drops up and down to form a second bed. I often have to migrate to my mate's 'van to play inside. This is the only drawback to this otherwise beautiful trailer. Do what I do - go to warm places (we do southern Europe) and set up outside. You will be amazed how many people bring along instruments - usually guitars, and join in. They often bring a few beers as well, and many friendships have been formed this way, with fellow Europeans, French, Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish etc., singing their own songs in their own language, as well as English. Music is international after all! We may have fought each other for centuries, but this is a good way to avoid any more unpleasant episodes! I'm a Brit by the way, but quite proud to be 'European'
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:18 PM   #9
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You could probably squeeze a Marshal double stack in there along with a B-3 but it might get tight....
Not necessary for Classical guitar, but-
I wonder if a Marshall 8 x 10 speaker cabinet would come through the door. I used to haul it around in a VW bug with the passenger seat and back seat removed. The amp head was in the front trunk...
We also hauled a big ole component stereo system with those big ole monster speaker cabinets and a rack for the many components in there- turntable, EQ, tuner, amp, tape deck, CD player-
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What an creative, FUN, group, you are! I will get "inventive" and see if I can come up with the answer with the hinge ideas. Thanks to all! Dave
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:38 AM   #11
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You could probably squeeze a Marshal double stack in there along with a B-3 but it might get tight....
For sure going to need that generator!

And turntable to play along with the Jimmy's (Smith and Hendrix)
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:28 AM   #12
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Possibly a little Michael Bloomfield
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:59 AM   #13
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On our 25' International we have removed the table and the starboard side part of the couch and replaced the table with a used flip top unit that we purchased from the used forum. This provides us with the room and the table for my wife to play her keyboard and for me to play my guitar. This set up works for us. Check out our pictures. We are moving to a larger AS, but not because of a lack of room to play our instruments.
We'll be putting our 25' International up for sale soon.

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Old 11-22-2014, 09:24 AM   #14
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making more room in a Bambi

In our 19'er we've eliminated the dinette table, giving us lots more room. It just seems bigger not dodging the table all of the time. Two shots - with the table, after our first remodel, and without the table, after the remodel we did this year. We have a small table to set up if we need it, but we've found that putting a tray on the cushion at the front suffices in most cases.
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