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Old 01-08-2015, 04:31 PM   #15
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We looked at the last (#25 of 25) 2011 Classic 34 foot that was repossessed on a dealership lot in June of 2013. It was lovely except for the carpet at the door and in the bedroom. It needed some repairs that were not major.

Our 2012 Dodge Ram 2500HD with Cummins has a combination towing limit of 20,000 pounds and our truck crosses the scales around 10,000 pounds loaded for camping. (Front axle is rated 5,500 pounds and rear is rated 6,010 pounds for a total of 11,510 pounds of axle and tire capacity) There was no way we could safely load the 34 to it's capacity of 11,500 pounds GVW.

The drive train could easily pull the weight, but the issue is stopping if the trailer brakes had a failure.

We ordered our 2014 31' Classic model 30 and are very happy with it as just the wife and I are the inhabitants most of the time.
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Old 01-08-2015, 04:38 PM   #16
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34' = yes, you'll love it
F150-anything to tow it = bet you won't love it
F250+ = bet you'll love it

(That just about sums it up.....)
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Old 01-08-2015, 04:39 PM   #17
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Despite converse indications to the opposite thought......Size matters.
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Old 01-08-2015, 05:08 PM   #18
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Maybe some others can chime in here but I think there were some issues with the 34' Limited's built in the 90's with headliner glue failure. You might inspect your headliner carefully to see if it shows any evidence of bubbles or areas that aren't tightly secured to the overhead aluminum.

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Old 01-08-2015, 05:42 PM   #19
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Maybe some others can chime in here but I think there were some issues with the 34' Limited's built in the 90's with headliner glue failure. You might inspect your headliner carefully to see if it shows any evidence of bubbles or areas that aren't tightly secured to the overhead aluminum.

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Of course I can't predict the future, but I think it's just a matter of time before all of the Classic's head liners start falling, because to my knowledge, they were all installed with the same glue.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:06 PM   #20
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Our 1999 headliner is ok...so far. We don't rub it down with any force. Just a gentle touch. When it starts I may install strips to secure until I am wealthy enough to do a frame off. Oh, that will be when I cash in my chits at the Gate....cause that's where it's at for us...

BTW... Was this a ruse by the OP?
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:47 AM   #21
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Hi Charles,

We have a 1983 34' Limited and we are very happy with it. We love the floor plan of ours (side bath, rear bed) because it has lots of storage space in the back (just in front of the bedroom) and feels very open up front with ample room to move around. The triple axle makes it very smooth and stable to tow.

It is a bit difficult to navigate petrol stations. Sometimes we have to scout ahead and plan our approach. We once drove around and entered the fuel station from the back, because that was the only way to be able to get out again without unhitching. If all else fails, you may have to unhitch in a parking lot and go get fuel with only the car. We have not had to do that yet.

Some campgrounds only allow trailers of up to 30'. So it limits your choice of campgrounds. There are also some roads that do not allow trailers of over 30' and even if you are allowed, you sometimes need to steal a bit of road from the other lane when taking tight curves. We have had some challenges getting our trailer backed into campsites, but so far we have always managed and we have not regretted our choice once.

We tow it with a 2010 Buick Enclave 4WD and we are very happy with this combination. The Buick (with a V6 petrol engine, no tow package) tows and stops the trailer with ease. The trick is that we have had the hitch mounted by Andy Thomson of CanAm RV in London, Ontario. Andy guided us in adjusting the weight distribution, the sway control and the breaks very precisely. The weight distribution bars distribute the nose weight of the trailer evenly over all four wheels of the car. In combination with the 4WD, this gives us great traction. The Buick is a very comfortable and smooth car to drive. There are a number of other aspects of this car that make it a much better tow vehicle than a pickup truck, but I won't go into that now. Our main reason for getting this car as a tow vehicle is that we wanted to travel in style. The only modification Andy made to the car is an extra oil cooler for the transmission.

Some people worry about the Buick being too light and too small. We can assure you it is doing fine. The stopping of the trailer is largely done by it's own breaks. We once had an issue when we did not connect the cable well enough and the brakes did not make contact. As soon as we noticed it, we found a place to stop and correct it, but we first had to stop the combination. Even with only the car's brakes to stop the combination, we came to a halt surprisingly easily. Also the engine brakes work just fine going down hills.

Now you have to be precise with a combination like this. If you do something wrong with adjusting or connecting the weight distribution, the sway control or the brakes, you may be in trouble. With a large and heavy pickup truck, you don't have to be as meticulous. It just does not matter as much. Having said that, even with a truck you can be too careless!

Andy has a number of videos on his site, where he demonstrates what a correct hitch adjustment can do. And what a great trailer the Airstream is. We would definitely not tow a white box trailer of the same weight and size with this car.

If you have any questions, let me know. Below is a picture of our rig.

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Old 01-09-2015, 10:29 AM   #22
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I have a 72 ford LWB , auto, 373 , 390, we used it for many years to haul water, 450 gals per load, worked good. I hooked the flat bed to it to haul scrap iron to town, 11500 lbs gross, pulled on to the highway and headed up hill, first, then second, 30 mph, not much happening ,so I mashed it to the floor opening the 4 barrell carburator wide open ,she sounded good, nothing changed, still at 30 mph.i looked around and realized , this is the way it used to be, pulling my camper with them old style engines during the 70's and 80's, getting 7 mpg, driving all night to get to the next job....there is no such thing as too much horsepower or money,
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:34 AM   #23
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I tow a 25' with a 3/4 ton. I like it.

But....I have been on caravans with several of the people who tow long Airstreams with the Enclave. And with the Mercedes SUV. One Enclave was on Landmarks West in the Rockies. One day I traveled directly behind the 34' pulled with the Enclave through the mountains with 8 percent grades and a 20 mile long descents. It seemd to handle the trailer fine. He stopped once on the down slope to check/cool the brakes. So did I. You are not being scammed. People do pull seriously with these rigs. This particular rig made the trip from Ottowa to Arcata, Ca through the Rockies and back home. No, I do not know the long term service life of an Enclave used in this fashion.
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That '83 '34 weighs the same or less than my 1990 35' Silver Streak which itself has a base weight under 7000k.

I'd rather use that Enclave than the vehicles my Dad used to pull his similar SS. Especially as the TW is low on that 34' relative to size.
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:24 PM   #25
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Yea! My dad pulled double bottomed tankers with a 4 banger Detroit too!, and you did not stop going up hill, as you would never get it started, no such thing as too much power or money....
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That '83 '34 weighs the same or less than my 1990 35' Silver Streak which itself has a base weight under 7000k.

I'd rather use that Enclave than the vehicles my Dad used to pull his similar SS. Especially as the TW is low on that 34' relative to size.
Give me a couple of days, and I'll be looking around up here for a deal on one for you.
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Go look at the specs on that year. Lighter than a current 25
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Go look at the specs on that year. Lighter than a current 25
My 1991 34' scaled at 8380 lbs ready to travel. 7400 lbs on the axles and the rest is on the hitch (includes a Hensley). I pull with a 3/4 diesel because thats what I had when we bought the trailer. The 34' tows nicer than my 1963 '26 Overlander and is about the same weight/tire since it rides on 6 instead of 4. If I recall, the axles are rated at 2800 lbs each so it's a real light weight on ground pressure.

So, the weight is less than newer, much shorter units, the frontal area is less than new wide bodies and the well base in longer....whats not to love?
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