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Old 11-02-2014, 03:20 PM   #99
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What is the advantage of a front bedroom? It seems that having the bedroom in the back gives more privacy. Wolf146
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Old 11-02-2014, 03:24 PM   #100
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This.
Now that I have one, I don't know how I managed without it.

I like using mine while traveling just like a rear view mirror. The is some comfort in knowing vs. not knowing what is behind me and when they are going to pull out to pass.
It also helps to back into a spot, but there is no substitute for getting out to look or getting your wife to spot you. It is just a little added security that makes backing into a spot a one-shot deal- no more pulling up, backing up, pulling up, backing up...
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Old 11-02-2014, 03:35 PM   #101
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I like using mine while traveling just like a rear view mirror. The is some comfort in knowing vs. not knowing what is behind me and when they are going to pull out to pass.
It also helps to back into a spot, but there is no substitute for getting out to look or getting your wife to spot you. It is just a little added security that makes backing into a spot a one-shot deal- no more pulling up, backing up, pulling up, backing up...


+1, I agree on all points. It's become a truly valuable tool.
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Old 11-02-2014, 03:48 PM   #102
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What is the advantage of a front bedroom? It seems that having the bedroom in the back gives more privacy. Wolf146
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Old 11-02-2014, 03:51 PM   #103
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Things I like to see on New Airstreams

Must. resist. hijack. There are *plenty* of threads on FB vs. RB. As much as I love to chat about that topic and would enjoy the hijack, this isn't the right thread. (Though that is a nice picture!)

We love our rear-view camera, would never willingly tow without it. I guess we're spoiled now. I'd love to see AS offer this as an option vs. only getting it from the dealer.
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Old 11-02-2014, 04:32 PM   #104
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Good enough reason for Airstream to consider this concept ie Front Bedroom Wolf146
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Old 11-02-2014, 04:33 PM   #105
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Old 11-02-2014, 04:44 PM   #106
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From the owner of a 2012 Classic perspective:

Quality Control - Ours had an electrical outlet missing (Main outlet beside dinette). Cable didn't work (wire too short to properly connect to outside connector).
4 stage converter with AGM batteries.
Sliding doors that are mounted more securely so traveling on interstate highways doesn't pull the minimal mounts loose.
LED lighting throughout the interior.
Thorough caulking around shower enclosures.
Better mounting for shower hardware so it doesn't become dislodged during travel on interstate highways.
List of available options for each model.
Up to date web information on new products.
Up to date owner's manual as has already been mentioned.
More accessible water connections (Higher on trailer instead of bottom).
Better and more consistent insulation.
Wire ways or troughs for adding wiring.
Service manuals available for each model.
We've owned 2008 22' Safari Sport, 2010 25'FC and now 2012 Classic. The only consistent issue with the three has been leaky shower enclosure. Dealers do poorly on repair of these and on all three I have removed the framing, cleaned thoroughly and caulked properly with no issues.

If aluminum hydroformed or other type of frame was part of the product it would be a plus but not a significant item.
No rot flooring would be nice as long as strength was comparable to plywood.

Thanks for the opportunity to provide feedback.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:53 PM   #107
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The main things I would like to see with new Airstreams is a higher price along with higher quality. By raising the price they could maintain a decent profit margin and be able to raise the level of quality along with adding some of the features many of us want to see. A bit more money up front would be easier to take then the disappointment of poor quality after purchase.

A few simple almost no cost changes would help substantially with the quality. First, keep the unit clean while being assembled. Many have reported on construction debris with new units. My wife and I thought someone ran into our trailer in the middle of the night with a hell of a big bang. It was piece of trash that was left in the furnace compartment that got sucked into the blower and shredded the fan. Just another wasted day driving to and from the out-of-town dealer to repair. Just staying on top of keeping things cleaned up during assembly would sure help.

Next, teach new employees along with existing ones how to tighten fasteners with out striping threads. Seriously, a little training in this department would sure help. Too many stripped out fasteners throughout my trailer and I know many others have voiced the same situation with theirs.

Other features I'd like to see:
1) Rot proof flooring since unfortunately Airstreams do leak.
2) A way to hang the outside shower higher as others have mentioned.
3) Back up camera option or cabling in place for easy installation after purchase.
4) Better converter that won't trash the batteries
5) Better inverter setup with the same outlets running off of regular power or inverter
6) Larger water tanks since many of us boon dock
7) A return to a bit more of the styling from the older CCD interiors ( a bit more color and simple). I love our International Signature but prefer the older units.
8) Offer a 30' model that is similar to the 28 floor plan. The current 30's have the dinette and windows on the wrong side. It makes more sense to have it on the side with the door and awning. Works better for most campgrounds and also if boon docking makes more sense to position the trailer for the best view from both the windows and the patio awning if possible.

Things that have been mentioned that I'd rather NOT see on my next trailer:
1) Generator compartment
2) Built in vac
3) Integrate hitch (love my Propride but I feel this should be selected by the owner for their needs and tow vehicles)

I'm thrilled that Airstream is monitoring this thread and hope many of the suggestions are taken seriously.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:18 PM   #108
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:40 PM   #109
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A random idea that may or may not be good

At the barber shop they have a shop vac wired in a cabinet in such a way that they sweep hair up to the bottom of the cabinet where there is an opening - they step on a small pedal and the vacuum sucks up the hair

You could make a similar setup for AS maybe -

I store my small 2.5 gallon shop vac under the main bed in front - perhaps it could be simply a small duct built for that door below the bed and wire in a button to touch with you foot - then you could perhaps lift the bed and detach the vaccuum for portable use

I know this sounds kinda crazy I guess - I've been thinking about something like this for a few months - it may be silly - but often I just want to seep up a bit if dust and dirt very quickly

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We have this feature in our custom Airstream. It's called a vac-pan, and it's one of our favorite features. It's under the kitchen sink in the pasteboard. You sweep and touch the vac-pan with your tow and it sucks in your sweepings. There is also a port between two sets of bunks where you can plug in the hose and other attachments, but either way everything goes into the same whole-house vac, remotely mounted under one set of bunks in a storage compartment. It's nifty and very quiet since the machinery is in that compartment. That and the dishwasher are tied for my favorite custom features in ours.we have lots of cool mods in our Custom bunkhouse, including some that are available on newer Airstreams-- but the dishwasher and built-in vacuum system (especially the vac-pan) are thrones which seem to get the most attention. They keep our airstream so clean, too, despite the twenty human feet and four canine feet she handles all day long. (ten people and one dog.) Pharmgeek,, be sure to come see this latest bunkhouse at Canopener-- you can try out the vac-pan. I think Airstream should definitely add this feature!
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:58 PM   #110
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Skateiro - I'm there!! That's exactly what I will do as well

Also - we had aluminum shavings do the same thing to our furnace blower fan - all the sudden a terrible noise - I had atwood send me a new one and I replaced myself - I agree - this should be avoided

Also have noticed the over tightened screws on overhead storage - multiple were tightened to strip - I added wood glue

Make darn sure drawers have latches that keep drawers in place in tow - we replaced most with brass aftermarket ones and they never let go - our neighbors with same AS had same problem with drawers -

Hope these things help improve quality

We love our as though - but it could stand to be better - thanks for listening


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Old 11-03-2014, 02:40 PM   #111
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I'd like to see:
1) Rot-proof flooring options
2) Four season options
3) Upgraded electrical (converters, inverters, solar, batteries, etc.)
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25 foot all electric model. Stove, no oven, no microwave, no furnace, I use portable heaters now, no air, I can use a portable one, electric only fridge, I supplement this with an ice chest, electric only water heater if wanted, I don't use one now, toilet with sink only, no shower, plenty of solar power and batteries, whatever is needed, generator in place of one gas tank and an ice chest in place of the other, large enough fresh water tank and black and gray tanks for boondocking. Just random thoughts, I only use lp now for the stove, so this isn't too far off from what I have now. Portable heaters and AC don't need thirty amp. What does everyone else think? Not afraid of LP, just don't see the need for it tha way we camp.
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