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Old 08-18-2011, 05:57 PM   #15
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Don't worry folks:


Maybe it's like Wally says. A fella ain't got an Airstream of his own, but only a piece of a big Airstream, the one big Airstream out there that belongs to everybody. And then it don't matter. Then Airstreams'll be all around in the dark. Airstreams'll be everywhere…Wherever there's a road to travel, an Airstream'll be there. Wherever there's a remote corner to boondock on, an Airstream'll be there. An Airstream will be in the way guys talk when they're discussing hitches and Airstreams'll be in the way new owners laugh when they make up funny names and they know they are ready for their first trip…And when Airstream people gather at rallies and eat the weird stuff they brought for potluck , well Airstream'll be there too.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:07 PM   #16
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Everybody complains about the quality of new Airstreams. Maybe you should try buying a new SOB and see what happens. Airstreams are the worst RV in the world, except for everything other RV.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:08 PM   #17
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:18 PM   #18
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Interesting thread. Did I buy a vintage trailer because it was all I could afford? No. But it was all I wanted to spend. Heck, we did not even know what Vintage meant when we bought it. But we wanted to try out the RV life and see if it was something we really wanted to do. Couple of funny things happened. We fell in love with the lifestyle and the trailer (which we named Bud). Now that says a lot in itself, I have never in my life "named" anything inanimate. But it just doesn't feel inanimate, I see the dents and scratches and simply wonder, "where were you Bud, what happened here?" And like I said, we fell in love so...
Now here comes the really strange part. We really are thinking about getting a new one. (love the International Serenity) But no way would we get rid of Bud.

So...2 Airstreams? Probably...

I guess there are as many reasons to buy Vintage or New as there are owners of Airstreams. But we all share that same bond. We love the darn things...
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:25 PM   #19
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I suspect that when the vintage units were new, they had problems similar to what new Airstreams now have. Does anyone know how good/bad their vintage trailer was when it was new? Probably not...

That said, I wouldn't mind having a restored vintage unit. To me, the real advantage is that you can get one of the restorers to do whatever you want in it. It's expensive, but still cheaper than a new one.

On a related note, I noticed that the floor plan in our '95 30' Excella is exactly the same as a 2011 30' Classic Limited, which tells me it's a good floor plan and we're not the only ones that like it.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:45 PM   #20
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Interesting topic ~ I'll throw my two cents in. We bought a new Bambi just this summer. We had looked for quite some time for a used 16 ft trailer and we weren't able to find one. We ended buying new knowing that we'd loose some value right away but we got what we wanted. It didn't cost any more than our last car, and somehow I feel we'll get A LOT more enjoyment out of our little trailer than any car we'll ever own.

I LOVE seeing the old airstreams drive by with their pretty, shiny exteriors, but I also know that they are a lot of work and we don't have that kind of time to put into one at this time in our lives....maybe someday, when we retire But, I hope we get an awful lot of enjoyment out of ours until then!

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Old 08-18-2011, 08:19 PM   #21
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Having grown up traveling in Airstreams from the age of six days old, I was always proud to have one in the family. Mom and Dad started with a 24' 1966 Tradewind Double, upgraded to a 31' 1972 International Sovereign, and finally when the kids were out of the house, went to a LARGER 32' 1986 Excella.

Each Airstream was newer, but never new. Dad was happy to buy used because that is what he could afford...and he loved the quality (over other brands) of an Airstream.

Today I am the proud owner of a 1964 Bambi II. I never thought, like Dad never thought, that I would own one single Airstream. They are out of my price range. I got mine for a steal, and now the full and total rebuild begins. Hey- I needed another project for my spare time.

I also just spoke to a couple this past weekend who are elated to own a 2011 Flying Cloud. They love it. It is a beautiful unit. They drove across several states to claim it as their own and they could not be happier.

I appreciate the new units, but I will always go vintage personally. As everyone seems to ask- "are they still making those things?" Well, yes and no. Airstreams, yes- VINTAGE Airstreams, no. There is a difference, but also a place for everyone and their own interests, tastes, and budgets.

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Yes. A great hobby indeed.

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Old 08-18-2011, 08:19 PM   #22
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I was kicked in this very forum for suggesting that to buy new was a good thing. I had, apparently, insulted all those who couldn't afford to buy new. Well, that wasn't my intention, I was merely pointing out that for someone as cack-handed as me, new was the only option because there is no way I could maintain a vintage unit.

We bought new because we don't really have the skill or the desire to lavish huge amounts of time on keeping an old 'un on the road. Also, ours is the only trailer we intend to buy so we started with new and will hopefully grow old with it.

Of course, there are plenty of good folks out there who thrive on the challenge of an older unit and yes, of course, not everyone has the means to buy new. Either way, new or old, each unit is cherished by its owners and that's the important thing.

For what it's worth, I think Airstreams old and new are fantastic and get excited at the sight of either, sad man that I am!
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:26 PM   #23
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Please read my reply in a pleasant tone. I don't mean to blast back, but I have to question a few things:

No matter how many times people (including me) write "I'd save some money from depreciation and buy a unit that is a few years old and debugged by its first owner," people will still buy new trailers.

Some people will always want new. New is shiny. New has a warranty. New lets you pick the options you want. New allows you to buy one off of a lot rather than hunting for one for weeks/months/years and then driving cross-country. New allows you to satisfy a dream in a fairly efficient manner.

Fair enough.

But the statement that it's a good idea to buy a slightly-used trailer, or to restore vintage, isn't a bad attitude. It does help people. It helps people save some money by depreciation. It helps people to realize that it's nice to have someone debug your trailer.

Those sort of comments also have to get back to the factory. Most accounts are that quality control in the newer trailers is somewhat better than a few years back. That's a good thing.

One other thing - don't assume jealousy or that other folks can't afford a new trailer. We could buy one tomorrow. (Indeed if, heaven forbid, our Argosy got wrecked, we might indeed do that.) But one does not live or die by Airstream alone (or something like that)...

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"Please ready my reply in a pleasant tone."

Ha! Ha! I'm not that confrontational.

Okay. Maybe my pronouncement of jealousy was over-the-top.
But please bear in mind, I was attacking the principle - not the principal.

I do hope all these comments get back to the factory. It would appear the pride of Airstream craftsmanship has not kept up with the pride of ownership.

But....things can change for the better. Perhaps they already have. It will be interesting to read the comments from the 2010 models onward.

p.s. Like how you called it "debugging." Sounds kinda mysterious....like that spy vs. spy stuff.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:28 PM   #24
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Ha! Ha! I'm not that confrontational. .
LOL! I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sounding confrontational!

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Old 08-18-2011, 08:35 PM   #25
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Maybe it's like Wally says. A fella ain't got an Airstream of his own, but only a piece of a big Airstream, the one big Airstream out there that belongs to everybody. And then it don't matter. Then Airstreams'll be all around in the dark. Airstreams'll be everywhere…Wherever there's a road to travel, an Airstream'll be there. Wherever there's a remote corner to boondock on, an Airstream'll be there. An Airstream will be in the way guys talk when they're discussing hitches and Airstreams'll be in the way new owners laugh when they make up funny names and they know they are ready for their first trip…And when Airstream people gather at rallies and eat the weird stuff they brought for potluck , well Airstream'll be there too.


Wow! Ol' Wally wasn't worried about anyone's wrath, bless him. The Grapes of Wrath (1940) - I'll Be There - YouTube
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:42 PM   #26
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Everybody complains about the quality of new Airstreams. Maybe you should try buying a new SOB and see what happens. Airstreams are the worst RV in the world, except for everything other RV.
"Airstream are the worst RV in the world, except for everything other RV."

I feel the same about my taxman and dentist -
but at least with the Airstream I spent it willingly, and other aspects were not as bad as pulling teeth.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:45 PM   #27
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Sounds like you're in the biz. Now, aren't you glad everyone does not want to put you out of work?
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Interesting thread. Did I buy a vintage trailer because it was all I could afford? No. But it was all I wanted to spend. Heck, we did not even know what Vintage meant when we bought it. But we wanted to try out the RV life and see if it was something we really wanted to do. Couple of funny things happened. We fell in love with the lifestyle and the trailer (which we named Bud). Now that says a lot in itself, I have never in my life "named" anything inanimate. But it just doesn't feel inanimate, I see the dents and scratches and simply wonder, "where were you Bud, what happened here?" And like I said, we fell in love so...
Now here comes the really strange part. We really are thinking about getting a new one. (love the International Serenity) But no way would we get rid of Bud.

So...2 Airstreams? Probably...

I guess there are as many reasons to buy Vintage or New as there are owners of Airstreams. But we all share that same bond. We love the darn things...
"But it was all I wanted to spend."

Good comment. Spending less but getting more is the ideal situation, but it's difficult to find in the Airstream world, especially for us Canadians.

Loved your comment about our shared bond. That was the gist of what I was trying to say.
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