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Old 04-19-2012, 12:41 AM   #15
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1) As stated several times before a martini is gin, dry vermouth and an olive. My preferred prep is to add the vermouth, turn the shaker over a couple of times, dump out the liquid and then add the vodka. There will still be some vermouth coating the ice, but it will be a dry martini. Anything to meeting the definition in the first sentence, though served up a martini glass is not a martini.

2) Minor POI, Lagavulin is from Islay and so it's not a Highland scotch. That said, it is peaty, it is wonderful and it is my favorite scotch.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:54 AM   #16
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KeriO, Insidious???? I think a better word would be effective. Thats why I don't drink them much. I really like the good gin my FIL gets. It's biting and almost medicinal tasting. You're right tho it's simply pure spirits. I don't at all like the candy like sweetness of the new fruity varieties that are being called martinis. And BTW the first three drinks are always "neat", after that it depends.....
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:00 AM   #17
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I'm feelin' good just reading about it!

And OK...I'll start taking gin to keep the purists among us happy!
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:06 AM   #18
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Well this thread has taken on quite a life tonight, much more interesting than the usual black water tank leak problem posts but I must go to bed. I'm heading down to San Carlos tomorrow to visit an old college bud to see his new grand daughter. Not taking the AS, it's in the shop.
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Old 04-19-2012, 05:57 AM   #19
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I drink very little but for some reason I find this thread interesting. Please continue, thanks jim.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:57 AM   #20
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Phbarnhart, you're right! I had my Scotland regions all mixed up (Islay and Jura whisky always seemed like the highest of highs to me, tastewise). And, looking at the map, it looks like Speyside could be considered Highlands. It is my least favorite region.

Here is the infuriating conversation I get into with my dad when he visits:
Me: You want a glass of whisky?
Dad: No, I like Scotch
Me: That's fine. I'll pour you a glass of Scotch whisky.
Dad: No, I don't want whisky, I want. Scotch!

I've even gone so far as to draw him. A whiskey family tree, and he still refuses to believe scotch is a whisky (even though it says so right on the bottle). Oh well, he likes the blended stuff anyway, and I never have that on hand.
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never developed a taste for the martini. tried once once but...oh well.

instead, the three basics:

1. good beer - sam adams, guinness, smithwick, etc.

2. single malt whisky

3. small cask bourbon

remember - life is short - drink the good stuff!
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:28 AM   #22
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[QUOTE=danlehosky;1135372]I've noticed that there is an explosion of drinks of all manner and they are calling them all martinis.

I think the classic look of the martini glass itself has taken over the drink, so anything you pour into that glass becomes a martini!

And, they all work for Dorothy Parker...
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Mike, you're absolutely right. It is the glass. And I've noticed they keep getting larger and larger. They all worked for Liz Taylor too.
KerriO, this didn't occur to me last night but keeping it under the bed would also keep it chilled. Of course that would be dependent on where you were located. This was taken on the one snow storm we had last winter on my deck. We later sat in the hot tub and enjoyed the naturaliy chilled wine.
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Driniks are a little differnt down in the south east.

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never developed a taste for the martini. tried once once but...oh well.

instead, the three basics:

1. good beer - sam adams, guinness, smithwick, etc.

2. single malt whisky

3. small cask bourbon

remember - life is short - drink the good stuff!
AZ-Streamer, I like your train of thought. No need for mixers, garnish, blenders, or shakers.

These distillers go to great lengths to take all of the water and impurities out of the drink, why would you go and wast their efforts by adding it back in.

Keep the bottle in the freezer or straight up over ice. The only way to go.
Growing up in TN I learned about sour mash at a young age. As I have refined my taste I have enjoyed the more mellow flavors of Woodford and Knob creek. I must say that living in Asheville I am learning more about true southern traditions with our new addition. Sure beats a martini.
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Another two to try (if you haven't already) are Jefferson's Reserve and Blanton's.

Both are small batch bourbons and both are quite lovely.
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Eagle Rare 10 Yr. is another one to try — I prefer it to Woodford and Knob Creek for an everyday (reasonably affordable bourbon) — a small batch single barrel made by Buffalo Trace. They have a 17-year, too, but I haven't tried that. I generally mix bourbon into a cocktail (I like the prohibition-era concoctions best), but drink Scotch neat. I'm still on the hunt for the perfect, reasonably-priced Rye.
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I gotta agree with chillpoints. Drink the good stuff and keep it neat. It's been a long time since I've had any 3 buck chuck. I believe the southeast is the best area of the country to indulge in this type of research for spirits. In the PNW it's pretty much wine and beer. I don't know of any small local distilleries. Has anyone noticed anything regionally about drink preferences?
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while i do like my spirits on the cold side, i find that if they are too cold you lose some of the taste factors, esp. between differing single malts.

add a splash of good water or 2 cubes and you're ready to enjoy.



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i usually take at least one along on any AS outing.


on the bourbon, i also enjoy knob creek, booker, maker's mark, etc.

i recently came across: 'bulliet' bourbon which i can recommend.

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