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Old 06-11-2015, 09:08 PM   #29
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As a former owner of a 2000 Tundra, I would have to agree with a couple of the earlier posters: Get yourself another truck. A newer truck. Maybe a post-08 Tundra. I'd say do this, even if you weren't planning on pulling a trailer.

The first-year Tundras were notorious for brake problems. Toyota rushed the first-gen Tundra to market, and they had a lot of bugs to work out. Basically, your truck has Tacoma brakes. They are too small and light-duty for the truck when empty, let alone when pulling at least 5K lbs of trailer.

I had endless problems with my truck's brakes: warped rotors, overheated calipers, bad seals, etc. Finally spent big $$ to upgrade the brakes to 02-03 spec, only marginally better.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's time for a newer truck...

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Old 06-11-2015, 09:20 PM   #30
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Yes, two of our sons were mechanics and said they made
Lots of money rebuilding those brakes.

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Old 06-11-2015, 09:29 PM   #31
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Go for it

I'd buy the 25. I'm assuming the Tundra has the small block V-8, it will not have an issue. I tow my 20' Safari with a an 2002 3.4 V-6 Tacoma, I generally stay out of overdrive as constant down and upshifting is rough on the tranny. Make sure your distribution hitch it set up properly. I've run the trailer about 6,000 mi. with no consequences or concerns. I previously owned a 2000 Tundra with which I towed a 26' Pursuit fishing boat - I didn't even know it was back there. The Safari is 5000 GVWR and the Pursuit was 6500. I did add a transmission oil cooler to the Tacoma, your Tundra may have one. You will be fine. I was nervous about the same problem but it has worked out fine. Go for it but do it right with the hitch.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:42 PM   #32
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You don't need a new truck. The trailer has electronic brakes and when adjusted correctly will not create any more wear on the tow vehicles breaks than would happen in the course of normal events. The trailer will not push the truck when the brakes are adjusted properly. Its just a little sliding mechanism you can play with when while you are driving to insure the trailer brakes are working adequately. You'll learn by doing, when adjusted to strongly, the trailer will do the stopping a jerk you around in slow traffic. Move it a little till that stops - just to the point where you don't feel the trailer pushing you. It is very, very easy. P.S. That's an old truck but in good condition will do the job. I just ran into a guy pulling a 28 footer with standard Mercedes station wagon with a diesel engine. Quebec to Forida five years running. That car was smaller than my Tacoma.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:18 PM   #33
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I also agree that the OP doesn't need a new truck, especially if is is in good shape....Heck, a 2000 model would be a late model at my house. My towing vehicles are a 1977 and 1994. My traveling car is a 1987
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:01 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by BKuhlman View Post
The Tundra is a 4.7 V8 w/4 wheel drive. When looking at the engine info it seems to make a big difference in whether it is a 5VZ-FE or 2UZ-FE. The manual says the Access cab, 4wd, auto trans, 5VZ-FE engine has a gross trailer weight of 4900#. But the same with the 2UZ-FE engine has a gross trailer weight of 7100#. Ours is the 2UZ-FE engine. McDave, ckottum, do you know if your engines have this designation? I don't know what it means other than it has them both listed and gives different trailer weights.
The 5vz-fe is the Toyota designation for the 6 cylinder engine. The 2uz-fe is the designation for the 4.7 L v-8. The 2uz is different from the 1 and 3 Uz engines in that the 2uz has a cast iron block instead of aluminum. It was designed for higher torque applications such as SUVs and pickups.
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Old 06-12-2015, 05:43 AM   #35
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Thanks to everyone for your input, and information. This has all been very helpful. I'll update with our decision when we have one.
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:40 AM   #36
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Well, I have another question. Is the hitch weight included in the GVRW for the TT or is it in the GVWR for the TV? If the GVWR for the TT is 7300 and the hitch weight is another 835, that's over 8000 total - way above the 7100 limit for the Tundra. If not, then at 7300, we're only 200# over the Tundra's tow capacity for the 25'. I think we could manage to be careful with cargo for the cross country trip. We will be driving 2 vehicles and towing another small Uhaul. The second vehicle and Uhaul could carry most of the cargo we will have with us. And again, taking an easy route to I40, then the rest of the way on I40 is pretty level if I remember right.
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:02 AM   #37
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Just make sure you have a the big radiator and transmission cooler on your truck and always use a lower gear up and down hills.
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:14 AM   #38
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I agree with the other posters. Get the 25, use your Tundra and see how it goes. Since it is now 15 years old reality would say that you will have to replace it sooner than later. Your small block V8 will tow the Airstream safely although it will slow down on the long steep hills. If you know this going in you shouldn't be disappointed, just down shift and slow down.

I have a brother that tows with your truck. He pulls a small toy hauler of the white box variety. His Tundra runs strong but he goes slow and pays the price in mpg, especially when driving in the wind and going up hills.

I pulled a 21 ft white box behind my 4Runner with the same engine. It was fine but I knew I was going up to the Airstream so I moved into the 5.7 L Tundra and it tows it nicely. Also, follow the advice to get a good WD hitch and dial in your trailer brakes to avoid over working the TV brakes.

Good luck and have fun. We really like our 25
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:26 AM   #39
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I pull my 68 Tradewind with a 2001 Tundra. The trailer weights around 4100 when loaded for camping. It is all I would want to pull with my truck. It is fine on flat ground and cruises all day around 62mph (my truck and trailer have a harmonic or something at that speed and it just feels right) but in the Smokies or Ozarks I always wish for a bigger truck. Make sure you get a good brake controller (I love my P3) as the brakes on the Tundra can get warm fast on long downhills, even using engine braking.
Also, do not pull with the overdrive engaged. ALWAYS turn it off when pulling, your tranny will thank you and your bank account will too.
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:42 AM   #40
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We started with a 16' Sport thinking we were going to pull it with our Infinity Fx SUV, but when we realized we didn't have a tow package on our Infinity, we ended up renting a truck from Bay Area Airstream. This worked out great because we ended up getting a 2014 Toyota Tundra 1794 Edition, then upgraded to the 25 FC Twin front bedroom. Had we known, we would have straightaway gone to the 25' instead of trying to get purchase an Airstream according to our tow vehicle. Our Tundra does great towing our 25' and we love the look and style of this truck...just our preference as I know most consider only Fords or Chevys "real" trucks
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:33 PM   #41
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Cheryl, glad to know the later model Tundra does well with the 25' FC. That is the AS that we are most interested in so far. I think the only way we would get rid of the current Tundra is to get another one. We are as happy with our Tundra as some are with their Fords and Chevys. As mentioned, the Tundra is 15 yrs old, but we have never had a lick of trouble with it.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:42 PM   #42
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We're on our maiden voyage with our '69 25' Tradewind I weighed it at a Oregon scale and it came in at 4700 # loaded and with 30 gal of water in the forward mounted tank @ 255#.

Its a bit heavy on the tongue at 700# so we'll run with only 5 or 6 gallons of water in the future.

Our 2014 Tundra with 5.7L v-8 and 6 speed auto with 4.30 gears is rated to tow 10,200#.

So far over mountains and highways we are averaging 13.6 mpg running up the grades at 55-65 mph. The Tundra doesn't even notice the Tradewind.

The Tundra makes a great tow vehicle, I highly recommend it ! Go test drive one and tow your trailer even without a brake controller the Tundra had no problem stopping the rig.

Here's our test drive ...

And on the road with our rig ...
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